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    Re: Spider gene and constipation?

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    Nothing yet :/. I put her in an 88 degree bath and rubbed her stomach for 5-10 minutes. She doesn't feel hard though. I was doing some more reading on it and a month isn't uncommon. It was also recommended to keep feeding them the appropriate amount. I went ahead and fed her two 5 gram mouse fuzzies tonight. I took away her cool hide and will give it back in the morning that way I know she's digesting it properly. She hasn't shed since I've had her, so maybe she just doesn't need to go yet. I will try another warm bath in a few days.
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    Re: Spider gene and constipation?

    Definitely keep us updated! Not a spider, but my baby pastel that I got three months ago didn't poop for a long time when we first got her. It was scary but warm baths and continued feeding seemed to help out.
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    Re: Spider gene and constipation?

    Indeed there is something you should know also though. I just figured you could possibly coax a turd out of it to make yourself feel better (although it does seem a little swollen right before the end of the tail but I heald mine up earlier and looked close and when your not supporting their lower body she kind of looked similar) but lemme hit you with some knowledge; this should make you feel a lot less concerned. Ball pythons in their natural environment tend to take refuge in abandoned termite mounds. They do this for the soul purpose that small rodents like to hide in these same burrows. They are very lazy ambush predators they just crawl down to the bottom of a mounds guts and eat every rodent that comes strolling in. Of course after eating any inhabitants that were already calling it a home when the snake arrived. In order to keep new prey showing up to be consumed the den must not seem to be inhabited by a snake. This includes smells. So the Ball Python will sometimes try to hold their bowels until a time when they have to shed. This way when they desecrate the hide/ambush point with their presence they do it all in one shot. They shed, they crap and than they move on to a new den.

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    Re: Spider gene and constipation?

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    Indeed there is something you should know also though. I just figured you could possibly coax a turd out of it to make yourself feel better (although it does seem a little swollen right before the end of the tail but I heald mine up earlier and looked close and when your not supporting their lower body she kind of looked similar) but lemme hit you with some knowledge; this should make you feel a lot less concerned. Ball pythons in their natural environment tend to take refuge in abandoned termite mounds. They do this for the soul purpose that small rodents like to hide in these same burrows. They are very lazy ambush predators they just crawl down to the bottom of a mounds guts and eat every rodent that comes strolling in. Of course after eating any inhabitants that were already calling it a home when the snake arrived. In order to keep new prey showing up to be consumed the den must not seem to be inhabited by a snake. This includes smells. So the Ball Python will sometimes try to hold their bowels until a time when they have to shed. This way when they desecrate the hide/ambush point with their presence they do it all in one shot. They shed, they crap and than they move on to a new den.
    That makes sense, guess I'll wait and see when she sheds.
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    Still no poop, but her stomach doesn't feel hard. Fed her two more mouse fuzzies yesterday, and she is definitely in shed. Her eyes are blue, and her skin feels different.
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    Re: Spider gene and constipation?

    Quote Originally Posted by nightwolfsnow View Post
    Still no poop, but her stomach doesn't feel hard. Fed her two more mouse fuzzies yesterday, and she is definitely in shed. Her eyes are blue, and her skin feels different.
    Here is why, you are feeding fuzzies.

    If those are fuzzy mice they are inadequate, those are colubrid food not BP food, a BP right out of the egg will take a hopper and quickly move to adult.

    Young animals use most of the prey item for growth, if not fed adequately there will be nothing left to defecate.

    Your BP is underfed, start feeding and it will defecate.
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    Re: Spider gene and constipation?

    My spider is about six years old and he has never had any issues, he has always been a great eater and no problems pooping.
    I don't necessarily think the spider morph has anything to do with constipation, I would say its more like just your specific snake who has
    Constipation issues just like some people may suffer from constipation.

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    Re: Spider gene and constipation?

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    Here is why, you are feeding fuzzies.

    If those are fuzzy mice they are inadequate, those are colubrid food not BP food, a BP right out of the egg will take a hopper and quickly move to adult.

    Young animals use most of the prey item for growth, if not fed adequately there will be nothing left to defecate.

    Your BP is underfed, start feeding and it will defecate.

    Hmm could be it. Though she does look like she has a small bulge. I've been paranoid about giving her anything as large as a small mouse. Her neck seems really skinny compared to my other two hatchlings. I haven't been able to get rat pinkies since her first feeding. I have a bunch on order that will be delivered in time for her next feeding though. I'm probably just being paranoid about the prey size, I know the rest of her body is big enough for a small mouse.
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    Re: Spider gene and constipation?

    You'll be surprised how much her neck will stretch. She can handle it.

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    Re: Spider gene and constipation?

    Quote Originally Posted by nightwolfsnow View Post
    Hmm could be it. Though she does look like she has a small bulge. I've been paranoid about giving her anything as large as a small mouse. Her neck seems really skinny compared to my other two hatchlings. I haven't been able to get rat pinkies since her first feeding. I have a bunch on order that will be delivered in time for her next feeding though. I'm probably just being paranoid about the prey size, I know the rest of her body is big enough for a small mouse.
    It's not could be it, it is it you are underfeeding your animal, and the entire amount of food it utilize for growth, hence no poop.

    The only reason why a BP should be given a fuzzies is if it was about 20/30 grams out of the egg and no reputable breeder would let a BP that small go.

    You don't feed base on the size of the neck but base on the widest part of it's body.

    Start feeding the right amount of food every 5 to 7 days and your BP will poop, might take a while though since the prey size has no been adequate.

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