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    Boy this one is really close.

    My gut instinct is to say "Vanilla" instantly. BUT that is because my own fire babies were BRIGHT yellow when they hatched. However, I know not many of them are that bright at birth, a lot are much darker yellow to orangeish when they hatch.

    It also makes things more difficult that your vanilla has so much blushing. Normally the "fire blushing" is the giveaway in babies. But with yours, you can't use the blushing because your vanilla has so much.

    How old are these guys? How many sheds have they had? Generally speaking, the older they get and the more sheds they have, the easier it gets to say which is which.

    After spending some time studying the pictures, and going back through pictures of my own babies. I am leaning towards them being vanilla. I can't say just why, it's really kind of a combination of things, but yes, I think they are vanilla.

    Now, if it is possible to keep them for a few more sheds, it should be much easier to say with confidence what they are.

    Gale
    1.0 Low-white Pied - Yakul | 1.0 Granite het Pied - Nago
    1.0 Mojave - Okoto | 1.0 Vanilla - Kodama
    1.0 Pastel - Koroku | 1.0 Fire - Osa
    0.1 het Pied - Toki | 0.1 het Pied - Mauro
    0.1 Mojave - Kina | 0.1 Blushback Cinnamon - Kuri
    0.1 Fire - Mori | 0.1 Reduced Pinstripe - Sumi
    0.1 Pastel - Yuki | 0.1 Dinker Normal - Akashi
    0.1 Ghana Giant Normal - Tatari | 0.1 Dinker Normal - Kaiya

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    Re: Clutch #2 Results post shed

    Quote Originally Posted by angllady2 View Post
    Boy this one is really close.

    My gut instinct is to say "Vanilla" instantly. BUT that is because my own fire babies were BRIGHT yellow when they hatched. However, I know not many of them are that bright at birth, a lot are much darker yellow to orangeish when they hatch.

    It also makes things more difficult that your vanilla has so much blushing. Normally the "fire blushing" is the giveaway in babies. But with yours, you can't use the blushing because your vanilla has so much.

    How old are these guys? How many sheds have they had? Generally speaking, the older they get and the more sheds they have, the easier it gets to say which is which.

    After spending some time studying the pictures, and going back through pictures of my own babies. I am leaning towards them being vanilla. I can't say just why, it's really kind of a combination of things, but yes, I think they are vanilla.

    Now, if it is possible to keep them for a few more sheds, it should be much easier to say with confidence what they are.

    Gale
    Thank you Gale. Because they both look to be the same gene, it is difficult to say which. I was really hoping to get two animals that were so drastically different it left no doubt.

    These just hatched on the third and shed on the twelfth. They haven't even had their first meal yet but I intend to try tomorrow. I have no problem hanging on to them for a shed or two if that makes it easier to more positively identify. I would rather hold them for a while and sell them as the correct gene they are, than sell someone the wrong animal and mess up their breeding plans. I am also leaning towards vanillas now as they seem to be turning a little more golden color. I also thought if they were fires they would be brighter as the male was very bright when I first received him at about 120 grams. If these are both the same gene which they sure appear to be, it means one of the parents threw nothing but the normal gene.

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    It happens hon. My husband had a 7 egg clutch from a lesser to a pastel, 7 normals. I kid you not. He was dumbfounded. But yes, it does happen.

    I'd say by their 3rd or 4th shed, which is usually when they are ready for sale, you should know beyond a doubt what they are.

    Gale
    1.0 Low-white Pied - Yakul | 1.0 Granite het Pied - Nago
    1.0 Mojave - Okoto | 1.0 Vanilla - Kodama
    1.0 Pastel - Koroku | 1.0 Fire - Osa
    0.1 het Pied - Toki | 0.1 het Pied - Mauro
    0.1 Mojave - Kina | 0.1 Blushback Cinnamon - Kuri
    0.1 Fire - Mori | 0.1 Reduced Pinstripe - Sumi
    0.1 Pastel - Yuki | 0.1 Dinker Normal - Akashi
    0.1 Ghana Giant Normal - Tatari | 0.1 Dinker Normal - Kaiya

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