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Re: Possible Hard Choice Concerning My BP
 Originally Posted by CloudtheBoa
I'm going to get some live ASAP and if that doesn't work he's getting either force or assist fed.
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Re: Possible Hard Choice Concerning My BP
I think your Ball Python looks fine and I wouldn't worry since he's eating live now.
PitOnTheProwl is one of the most condescending people on this forum. It's not uncommon to see him demeaning another member here.
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Re: Possible Hard Choice Concerning My BP
 Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl
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See how it says if live doesn't work? That means that assist or force feeding is my last resort. So not sure why there's confusion?
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1.4 Boa imperator; unnamed '22 hbs
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1.0 garter snake ('13 albino checkered "Draco")
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Re: Possible Hard Choice Concerning My BP
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Re: Possible Hard Choice Concerning My BP
Or maybe start reading before you jump on people?
Context is rather important.
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8.3 Boa imperator ('15 sunglow "Nymeria," '11 normal "Cloud," '16 anery motley "Crona," '10 ghost "Howl," '08 jungle "Dominika," '22 RC pastel hypo jungle "Aleister," '22 pastel normal "Gengar," '22 orangasm hypo "Daemon," '22 poss jungle "Jinzo," '22 poss jungle "Calcifer," '22 motley "Guin")
1.4 Boa imperator; unnamed '22 hbs
3.3 Plains garter snakes
1.2 checkered garter snakes (unnamed)
~RIP~
2.2 Brazilian rainbow boa ('15 Picasso stripe BRBs "Guin" and "Morzan, and '15 hypo "Homura", '14 normal "Sanji")
1.0 garter snake ('13 albino checkered "Draco")
1.0 eastern garter ('13 "Demigod)
0.0.1 ball python ('06 "Bud")
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Re: Possible Hard Choice Concerning My BP
 Originally Posted by CloudtheBoa
See how it says if live doesn't work? That means that assist or force feeding is my last resort. So not sure why there's confusion?
I was not confused. Your snake goes no hunger strikes, he still has good mass and look.
I don't see a reason to stress an adult snake that is/has eaten.
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Re: Possible Hard Choice Concerning My BP
Well seeing as I wasn't going to force or even assist feed unless needed, then yeah there was no need to say what you did, and it shows an amount of confusion to ignore the rest of the context that would have cancelled out everything you said.
He is definitely not in good form. He's not deathly thin, but he's on the thinner side of a what a bp should be. Give him another month or two and he would have become emaciated or at least very close. He was losing too much weight too fast.
He's ok as long as he gains his weight back but he should not have this body tone all the time. He looks more like a boa constrictor than a ball python right now.
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8.3 Boa imperator ('15 sunglow "Nymeria," '11 normal "Cloud," '16 anery motley "Crona," '10 ghost "Howl," '08 jungle "Dominika," '22 RC pastel hypo jungle "Aleister," '22 pastel normal "Gengar," '22 orangasm hypo "Daemon," '22 poss jungle "Jinzo," '22 poss jungle "Calcifer," '22 motley "Guin")
1.4 Boa imperator; unnamed '22 hbs
3.3 Plains garter snakes
1.2 checkered garter snakes (unnamed)
~RIP~
2.2 Brazilian rainbow boa ('15 Picasso stripe BRBs "Guin" and "Morzan, and '15 hypo "Homura", '14 normal "Sanji")
1.0 garter snake ('13 albino checkered "Draco")
1.0 eastern garter ('13 "Demigod)
0.0.1 ball python ('06 "Bud")
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Re: Possible Hard Choice Concerning My BP
 Originally Posted by CloudtheBoa
He is definitely not in good form. He's not deathly thin, but he's on the thinner side of a what a bp should be.
Mine are on the fatter side for males and yours is close to the weight of most of my middle sized males.
Many of the breeders I know have males in the 800g to 1000g range, just like people they all vary but I don't see him starving himself to death either.
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Re: Possible Hard Choice Concerning My BP
 Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl
I think a simple "He really doesn't need to be put through a force feeding" would suffice. Not "You obviously can't handle owning a ball python and need to give it away to someone competent".
This isn't about "the truth". It's about a grown man taking the fun and learning experience out of this hobby by calling many people, and sometimes kids that are here to learn, stupid and incapable.
CloudtheBoa, when in doubt go to the live mice. If he's refusing live too THEN I would get worried about his weight loss and lack of interest in eating. Sounds like you've solved your issue already, though.
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Re: Possible Hard Choice Concerning My BP
I'm glad he ate for you CtB. My king hadn't eaten in 9 weeks and had lost a bit more weight than usual during his seasonal fasts. He took a live mouse tonight too. Sometimes that kick starts their appetite and they'll get back on track. Best wishes with your guy. Keep us posted.
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