My two, as far as I know, were #2 and #3. If you REALLY want to know about the Sulfur and Ember genes, you can probably look up the stories here, or just google them. The Sulfur throws a high number, of high orange Supers. The Fire gene seems to throw a large number of slightly orange Supers. There are high orange Fires, but if you want consistently high orange Supers, the Sulfur is probably the way to go. So, if the Sulfur and Fire gene had been muddled up, it might be a crap shoot instead of an educated guess, as far as high orange Lucies. Haters are gunna hate I guess....but I have been over it for almost a decade now
Mark, you are correct in what you posted.
Dave
PS-Ohwhataloser, you forgot they were pulled from the same tank too. In there with a visual Ghost male, back when Ghost males were $2K. It looked to me like someone was putting together a Hypo breeding trio...the Ember and Sulfur females have a Hypo look, and things were way different back then.