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    Re: Is pine really that bad/

    Quote Originally Posted by BCS View Post
    Simply saying "I wouldn't do it just because I have "heard" it is bad, seems to remind me a little bit about people having a fear of snakes. Scared of all snakes just because the media talks about legless killing machines, then the idea of "all snakes are bad" just because of a few bad stories when really these people are just not properly educated. And hey, maybe that person is me and not you but with people saying yes and no, it is kind of hard to get the proper education.
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    Well, I never said that... Not sure if you meant to, but that came across as kind of insulting.

    I said that I'd personally use paper before I used pine; it's easier for me to obtain, and I don't have that many animals so cleaning isn't an issue. I didn't say I'd never ever use pine just because some people say it's bad; heck, I didn't even say you shouldn't use pine. I was very clear that I wasn't going to give an opinion on it because I have no experience with it, and I believe pretty strongly that people shouldn't give advice on things they know nothing about. However, there is some debate about pine, so if I had the choice between a similarly priced or cheaper substrate that there is no debate over that's what I'd personally choose. There's no logical fallacy or 'fear' in that, it's a perfectly reasonable way to handle the situation.

    Maybe 'that person' is you and not me, because I didn't say 'yes' or 'no' or give you any information that could be misleading in any way. I just commented on the fact that there are people on both sides of the pine debate, and said what I'd personally do, but that you'd just have to keep researching and see what works for you.

    Sorry, I just fail to see where my completely neutral reply has you convinced that I said I'd never ever use pine and you shouldn't either.

    EDIT: My comment about cedar is based on seven years spent studying plant biology, not something I heard on the internet. I'd have to see definitive proof that that was harmless before I used it.
    Last edited by DVirginiana; 07-21-2015 at 02:15 AM.
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