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    Re: Dwarf retic still not calming down

    Quote Originally Posted by PassionFruitReptiles View Post
    Most breeders and shop owners will not replace a snake because it's doing what a snake does. I am sure he doesn't want to go through the process of taking the hin back and quarantining this snake just because he is a bit temperamental.
    When you get into this hobby you just have to accept that you will own some snakes that are very defensive and don't tolerate handling, they are wild animals and unpredictable. It just comes with the territory.

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    Well actually a breeder or shop owner should stand by their products. Most retics are nippy and the op has mentioned he has experience with the species and has tamed down other animals including retics. This particular retic is apparently a extraordinary animal with a customer who is totally dissatisfied with the animal. I think this case requires extraordinary reconsideration for a animal who is more than just "temperamental". Quarantining is something we all do and should not be a determining factor in a decision to satisfy a customer. Especially a customer who spent quite a bit of time and money into a animal that they( the breeder) produced. That also is a reason people buy from top notch breeders is bc they expect the breeder to go the extra mile. Pet shops? Not so much.
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    Re: Dwarf retic still not calming down

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Clark View Post
    Well actually a breeder or shop owner should stand by their products. Most retics are nippy and the op has mentioned he has experience with the species and has tamed down other animals including retics. This particular retic is apparently a extraordinary animal with a customer who is totally dissatisfied with the animal. I think this case requires extraordinary reconsideration for a animal who is more than just "temperamental". Quarantining is something we all do and should not be a determining factor in a decision to satisfy a customer. Especially a customer who spent quite a bit of time and money into a animal that they( the breeder) produced. That also is a reason people buy from top notch breeders is bc they expect the breeder to go the extra mile. Pet shops? Not so much.
    OP never said anything about having any experience with retics.

    OP seemingly hasn't answered any questions regarding the way he is housing the baby snake (which, as pointed out, could very well be the root of the problem)

    As far as I'm aware the Dwarf / Super Dwarf retics are known to be nippy.

    In the end, when you make the decision to buy an animal and are aware of the fact that it may never calm down, you are solely responsible. IMO

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    Re: Dwarf retic still not calming down

    OP my understanding is that you bought this guy as a future breeder. If you intend to produce retics, even if you don't breed this particular one and eventually sell him, I would keep working with him for a another few months. He may just come around for you once he's living in a tub instead of a tank. FWIW I would put him into the smallest tub that you can find that fits in your rack rather than a 41-qt tub, as that's probably still too big for him. A 28 or even 15 qt tub can go into a 41-qt rack, just make sure you only put 1/3 of the tub over the heat tape.

    Also, if you do breed retics you could easily end up with a couple dozen babies from a clutch that are just as defensive as he is, so the experience you get working with him would be worth it. If you decide you really don't want to deal with him after a few months you may also want to re-think breeding retics, if you're not enjoying yourself now wait until you got a hatchling rack full of the little nippers to deal with every day!

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