Controversy is great

[Citrus]

Ok, here's what I've found out:

I dug deeper into the account because I really hate to have dislike towards people. I went months of photos back, and it turns out he normally feeds it frozen ball pythons. Don't know why he had to feed live but I honestly think I misjudged him. The guy does care about his animals and isn't flaunting his money. Still, the last two posts of it has it eating a live snake, and morphs. But seriously I messed up again and this thread was in no way an attempt to upset you guys. I just wanted to know if it was common practice to spend extra money on bp morphs to feed them to other animals.
Edit: jclaiborn, I think that is the same person. The last two posts of it, I'm pretty sure the snakes are alive as the video with the pied it can be seen moving before he grabs it with the tongs. But it's clear after further research that I misjudged the guy


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[jclaiborne]

Ok, here's what I've found out:

I dug deeper into the account because I really hate to have dislike towards people. I went months of photos back, and it turns out he normally feeds it frozen ball pythons. Don't know why he had to feed live but I honestly think I misjudged him. The guy does care about his animals and isn't flaunting his money. Still, the last two posts of it has it eating a live snake, and morphs. But seriously I messed up again and this thread was in no way an attempt to upset you guys. I just wanted to know if it was common practice to spend extra money on bp morphs to feed them to other animals.
Edit: jclaiborn, I think that is the same person. The last two posts of it, I'm pretty sure the snakes are alive as the video with the pied it can be seen moving before he grabs it with the tongs. But it's clear after further research that I misjudged the guy


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I went back and watched the pied video again....few times actually, just because I was now curious. I think it's moving because he is pushing it with the tongs....if you look at the snakes stomach it looks like it had a necro done because it is cut open...no blood etc. Either way I agree I have followed him for a while and for what it's worth I agree he does care....I'm sure it pisses a lot of people off...if you go far back he initially answered every question that came his way...but lately it seems like he is over answering the same questions over and over.

[Lizardlicks]

I went back and watched the pied video again....few times actually, just because I was now curious. I think it's moving because he is pushing it with the tongs....if you look at the snakes stomach it looks like it had a necro done because it is cut open...no blood etc. Either way I agree I have followed him for a while and for what it's worth I agree he does care....I'm sure it pisses a lot of people off...if you go far back he initially answered every question that came his way...but lately it seems like he is over answering the same questions over and over.

Hmm. I don't keep hots so I probably don't have much place to comment on keeping practices, but if a fully grown snake dropped dead I would hesitate to feed it off. Kinks and abnormalities out of the eggs are just things that happen, but for formally healthy adult to kick it I would be worried about possibly spreading disease. Are the two species just dissimilar enough that the risk for passing infection isn't there?

[jclaiborne]

Hmm. I don't keep hots so I probably don't have much place to comment on keeping practices, but if a fully grown snake dropped dead I would hesitate to feed it off. Kinks and abnormalities out of the eggs are just things that happen, but for formally healthy adult to kick it I would be worried about possibly spreading disease. Are the two species just dissimilar enough that the risk for passing infection isn't there?

It looks like all the feeders had necros done...also they aren't all full grown....some looked somewhat kinked, some looked fine. Again I think it's just what comes his way.

[MarkS]

Ok, here's what I've found out:

I dug deeper into the account and it turns out he normally feeds it frozen ball pythons.

And so just how MANY times has this guy felt the need to post feeding pictures? Does he think that the people who follow him are still unclear on the idea that cobras are ophiophagous?

[jclaiborne]

And so just how MANY times has this guy felt the need to post feeding pictures? Does he think that the people who follow him are still unclear on the idea that cobras are ophiophagous?

Not that many...he posts all the animals that he cares for at the facility he works at...very few are actually feeding pictures, even fewer are of the cobra feeding...most are just the animals or him handling them

[scalrtn]

Personally, I don't like seeing Ball Pythons being used as feeders, regardless of what their genetic composition is. To me, a Normal is just as "valuable" as a morph costing several hundreds of dollars in this context, since they're all living things, and experience pain and fear in equal degrees, just as they would hopefully respond favorably in similar measure to kind and caring treatment. As an aside, I really couldn't care less that my bp isn't some celebrated morph. That makes him all the more "natural" (as well as beautiful) to me.