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    Telling it like it is! Stewart_Reptiles's Avatar
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    Food is food and a snake got to eat even those eating other snake. As far as mutation versus normal it would be like people having issues feeding dumbo, hooded or blue rats versus albinos who are commonly used as feeders .....The paint job does not make the animal superior.

    Kinked babies, those failing to thrive are often used to feed other snakes, some healthy animals bred as feeders are used to.

    In this case the animal used was probably unhealthy or not feeding.

    Now taking pictures or videos of feeding is not something I care for whether people feed snakes or rats, it contributes NOTHING, it only gets people upset, whether done on purpose or not and is not the best publicity for this hobby. We all know how snakes eat no one needs to make a show out of it, only those in desperate need of attention.
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    Re: Controversy is great

    I believe I know who you are talking about. That being said he works at a reptile shop, and a lot of the snakes hes posts belong to said shop...the snakes aren't alive when he feeds them to the cobra. He isn't buying morphs just to feed. He has posted pictures of normals being fed as well. He feeds what feeders come his way. He isn't buying high priced morphs just to feed off. He also got a lot of flack for feeding a beardie to an imported golden vine snake, but he had tried for weeks to get it to eat anything else and nothing would take. I know it gets a rise out of people, but as long as it's humane, then it is what it is....I see it as no different than a rat lover seeing a pic of a BP eating a rat.
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    It's his snake, he can feed it what he wants. Taking pictures of it and posting it on the internet just shows a pathetic need for attention. I could take pictures of my cat taking a crap and post it up on the internet with the disclaimer that 'it's just a natural bodily function and if you are offended by it you don't have to look' But it would still be a really stupid thing to do.
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    Re: Controversy is great

    On a side note. If you read through some of his posts he says he shows the good and bad side of owning certain animals, and what comes along with owning certain exotics...
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    Re: Controversy is great

    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah View Post

    Now taking pictures or videos of feeding is not something I care for whether people feed snakes or rats, it contributes NOTHING, it only get people upset whether done on purpose or not and is not the best publicity for this hobby. We all know how snakes eat no one needs to make a show out of it, only those in desperate need of attention.
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    Re: Controversy is great

    I am trying to figure out where some people are coming from here, (not trying to argue this is a legitimate question) so for those that said it's a cry for attention...is it considered a cry for attention when I post growth updates for my childrens python and include a picture of him eating a hopper or pinky? Because I can assure you, at least on my end, it is not, it is posting updates and tracking his growth.
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    Re: Controversy is great

    Just read through the whole post and don't see the point of it at all. Just gets people riled up for no reason. We've been over this before. Yes, people use BPs as feeders. Do people who own BPs like it? Probably not...

    At the end of the day, if i worried about all the dumb stuff i see on instagram, I'd probably have a heart attack.
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    Re: Controversy is great

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Misha View Post
    Yes, people use BPs as feeders. Do people who own BPs like it? Probably not...
    People who keep them strictly as pets don't. People who breed more than a few a year do, as it means even their stills, kinked babies, culls, etc. have value.

    A local pig farmer freezes his stillborn piglets for me (retic food) and was very surprised when I offered to pay for them, as in the past they'd just been tossed onto the compost pile.
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    Controversy is great

    Ok, here's what I've found out:

    I dug deeper into the account because I really hate to have dislike towards people. I went months of photos back, and it turns out he normally feeds it frozen ball pythons. Don't know why he had to feed live but I honestly think I misjudged him. The guy does care about his animals and isn't flaunting his money. Still, the last two posts of it has it eating a live snake, and morphs. But seriously I messed up again and this thread was in no way an attempt to upset you guys. I just wanted to know if it was common practice to spend extra money on bp morphs to feed them to other animals.
    Edit: jclaiborn, I think that is the same person. The last two posts of it, I'm pretty sure the snakes are alive as the video with the pied it can be seen moving before he grabs it with the tongs. But it's clear after further research that I misjudged the guy


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    Re: Controversy is great

    Quote Originally Posted by Citrus View Post
    Ok, here's what I've found out:

    I dug deeper into the account because I really hate to have dislike towards people. I went months of photos back, and it turns out he normally feeds it frozen ball pythons. Don't know why he had to feed live but I honestly think I misjudged him. The guy does care about his animals and isn't flaunting his money. Still, the last two posts of it has it eating a live snake, and morphs. But seriously I messed up again and this thread was in no way an attempt to upset you guys. I just wanted to know if it was common practice to spend extra money on bp morphs to feed them to other animals.
    Edit: jclaiborn, I think that is the same person. The last two posts of it, I'm pretty sure the snakes are alive as the video with the pied it can be seen moving before he grabs it with the tongs. But it's clear after further research that I misjudged the guy


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    I went back and watched the pied video again....few times actually, just because I was now curious. I think it's moving because he is pushing it with the tongs....if you look at the snakes stomach it looks like it had a necro done because it is cut open...no blood etc. Either way I agree I have followed him for a while and for what it's worth I agree he does care....I'm sure it pisses a lot of people off...if you go far back he initially answered every question that came his way...but lately it seems like he is over answering the same questions over and over.
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