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    Re: The Live vs F/T debate

    Quote Originally Posted by SnakeBalls View Post
    So we all know feed lots are terrible and that we really shouldn't cram livestock stomachs with corn...
    We milk cows to the point that their utters (that’s breast, so the moms know how a baby can feel, imagine what a machine pumping away for hours feels like) bleed and puss and consumers end up drinking a lot of this.
    We mass produce turkeys and slaughter them for thanksgiving. We mass produce chickens and slaughter them year-round. Both these fouls live in cramped, disease/bacteria ridden 'barns'.
    Koreans eat dogs, cramming them into tiny cages, while they're dragged to slaughter.

    But we're the villains feeding precious rodent to vile snakes.

    Next time you're eating that burger, steak, holiday dinner, please remind yourself how cruel you are for supporting these practices.

    Not for the kiddos
    https://www.google.com/search?q=slau...ell=1&imgdii=_
    https://www.google.com/search?q=kore...q=chicken+farm
    https://www.google.com/search?q=kore...=1849&bih=1019

    NONE of my feedings ever result in any of what happens to YOUR (human) FOOD. Please tell me again how cruel it is to feed my pampered mouse colony off to my snake. Yes they even have a wheel!
    I feel like the people with the strongest stance against feeding live are probably also either vegetarian, or at least concerned with the welfare of the animals they eat and search out more ethical sources. Or I'd hope so at least. So your point of "you think this is bad? well here are some other things that are bad!" is not a very effective one.

    It does, however, highlight the point I brought up earlier, which is that the way the animals are kept and treated while they are alive is a thousand times more relevant than how they are dispatched, since that part is very quick either way. I have seen some rodent breeding operations where half a dozen or more adult rats are kept together in a poorly ventilated ten gallon tank or tub and fed nothing but those corn by-product "rat pellets." That should be far more concerning than people feeding live. From browsing that area of the forum, I get the impression that most rodent breeders on here have more ethical set-ups, but I have to wonder if that's the majority.
    Last edited by Snake Judy; 04-06-2015 at 11:09 AM.

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