is there a lethal gene?

[Eric Alan]

I am also now very confused. If a spider and pinstripe combo is lethal then how do you get a spinner blast. I was told that a spider bred to a pin stripe is a spinner, then the spinner to a pastel will give you a spinner blast, which is what i have. am i correct or is the breeding sequence wrong. I am new to snake genetics.

When bred to other morphs, the "lethality" doesn't apply. No need to be confused.

[MarkS]

I am also now very confused. If a spider and pinstripe combo is lethal then how do you get a spinner blast. I was told that a spider bred to a pin stripe is a spinner, then the spinner to a pastel will give you a spinner blast, which is what i have. am i correct or is the breeding sequence wrong. I am new to snake genetics.

It's not. The person writing that was either mistaken or they're comments were taken the wrong way. This thread IS over 6 years old and more info is now known.

Spider X Spider breeding is suspected of being lethal since no known homozygous spiders exist. Pinstripes on the other hand are fine, Pinstripe X Pinstripe has been produced but the homozygous pinstripe looks like any other pinstripe. Woma X Woma will produce a homozygous woma which is an all white snake which unfortunatly will not live longer then a day or two. I also believe that Sable has been proven now to have some issues, as a live spider X sable has never been produced. They seem to die in the egg full term. Also homozygous Sables seem to have the same type of neurological issues that spiders have (spinning and twisting head quavers) I believe there are also issues with breeding Champagnes to other morphs but I can't remember off hand what those are right now.


Yup, I just checked WOBP morph list and it says that champagne x spiders hatch but don't live very long.
http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...mpagne-spider/

[OhhWatALoser]

Woma X Woma will produce a homozygous woma which is an all white snake which unfortunately will not live longer then a day or two.

Do you happen to have something to verify this? I have been looking for a while and the only reference to a woma x woma breeding I can find is kevin's breeding, which turned out to be his hidden gene womas before he called them hidden gene womas. There is plenty to verify to lethal super hidden gene woma (aka pearl), but I can't for the life of me find something about plain woma x plain woma. Normally when I ask, people reference the same breeding kevin did.

[MarkS]

I have to admit that's the only reference that I have, though I have seen Kevin warning people against crossing woma x woma whether they were hidden gene or not

[se7en]

champagne and spider is lethal right?

[bcr229]

champagne and spider is lethal right?

All lethal:
Champagne Spider
Champagne Woma
Super Champagne

[cj2]

People are feeding you wrong information. Pinstripe x Spider is not a lethal combination. Together they are called the spinner and just look at all the combos. Champagne to spider is a lethal combination. Cinnamon x Cinnamon creates kinks in ball pythons almost every clutch. That's all I know of. But there are more lethal and fatal ones.

[Ransack]

oh my god

[Stewart_Reptiles]

People are feeding you wrong information. Pinstripe x Spider is not a lethal combination. Together they are called the spinner and just look at all the combos. Champagne to spider is a lethal combination. Cinnamon x Cinnamon creates kinks in ball pythons almost every clutch. That's all I know of. But there are more lethal and fatal ones.

7 years old thread I think it's been figured out since than

[grcforce327]

is there a lethal gene:

How about a heavy person in a very tight pair of Levis?