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    Honest opinions on feeding.

    My opinion on live feeding remains the same . I feel it's cruel towards the rodents and it also puts the snake at risk . It's not as though I'm alone in these views to be fair as in the UK - it's the norm to feed dead as opposed to live.
    Funny thing is there are so many in here supporting the feeding of live rodents and justifying it by saying that the risks are LOW .
    Thing is I don't want LOW risk when feeding ... I prefer ZERO risks .
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    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    My opinion on live feeding remains the same . I feel it's cruel towards the rodents and it also puts the snake at risk . It's not as though I'm alone in these views to be fair
    You're allowed to have those opinions and feed f/t but when you accuse other people of animal cruelty and endangerment for feeding live, especially when you have nothing but a google search to back you up, you've got to expect some pushback.
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    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.

    Quote Originally Posted by DVirginiana View Post
    You're allowed to have those opinions and feed f/t but when you accuse other people of animal cruelty and endangerment for feeding live, especially when you have nothing but a google search to back you up, you've got to expect some pushback.
    That was just one 5 second search result . There are thousands more and many horrific YouTube vids as well .




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    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    My opinion on live feeding remains the same . I feel it's cruel towards the rodents and it also puts the snake at risk . It's not as though I'm alone in these views to be fair
    And that's fine, nobody is asking you to feed live, nobody is insisting that feeding live is the only correct way. I would venture to say that the majority of people who keep a few snakes as pets feed frozen. It's a cheap and effective way to feed your snakes when you don't breed your own rodents. It's just that you come on a bit strong in defending a position that is not based on experience and have stated as fact something that is not born out by the experiences of people who DO feed live regularily.
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    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    I prefer ZERO risks .
    Then you are going to live a life doing absolutely nothing.
    It is okay to use pine bedding for snakes.
    It is okay to feed live food to snakes.

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    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    That was just one 5 second search result . There are thousands more and many horrific YouTube vids as well .
    There are also thousands and thousands of results for burns, but no one claims it's a bad idea to use a UTH because some people do it improperly.
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    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    That was just one 5 second search result . There are thousands more and many horrific YouTube vids as well .
    That's BS.

    Taking events so rare as to be meaningless and attempting to portray them as commonplace to defend your view is disingenuous.
    It is okay to use pine bedding for snakes.
    It is okay to feed live food to snakes.

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    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    My opinion on live feeding remains the same . I feel it's cruel towards the rodents and it also puts the snake at risk . It's not as though I'm alone in these views to be fair as in the UK - it's the norm to feed dead as opposed to live.
    Funny thing is there are so many in here supporting the feeding of live rodents and justifying it by saying that the risks are LOW .
    Thing is I don't want LOW risk when feeding ... I prefer ZERO risks .
    That does not exist nothing is ZERO risk not even F/T there are risk too when not done RESPONSIBLY which is all it also boil down to regardless of the method you are choosing.

    Again not supporting one or the other (I actually do both) but educating about both, being knowledgeable about both and experienced regarding both.

    With YOU it's demonizing, uneducated and inexperience views.................see the difference yet
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    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    That was just one 5 second search result . There are thousands more and many horrific YouTube vids as well .
    I'd like to take a brief timeout here to share how horrified I am of youtube videos of things like this. Oh, my snake is being mauled by a rat? Let's keep the film rolling and see how it goes. My hognose is EATING itself? This video will have so many hits!

    *Cringe*

    If your snake is in very obvious and preventable danger, put down the camera and stop it. I would not take a word of husbandry advice from a person who allowed harm to come to their animal and sat there filming through it.

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    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    I prefer ZERO risks .
    Maybe you need to use your google and see how many reptiles die from eating F/T that wasn't warmed up properly or enough.

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