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    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkS View Post
    And YOU'RE assuming that all 'trapped and cornered' rats react the same way. They don't.
    I just wouldn't be willing for my precious Royal to take the chance tbh and that's presuming I knew where to buy those kamikaze rats .




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    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    I'd argue that you can't compare a trapped and cornered rat with one in the wild where they can attempt to runaway .
    How many live rats have YOU fed and ho many incident have you had?

    Is YOUR opinion based on experience and personal knowledge or is your opinion mainly a cultural thing knowing that a majority of European keepers look down and discourage live feeding even though it is not based on experience?
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    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    I just wouldn't be willing for my precious Royal to take the chance tbh and that's presuming I knew where to buy those kamikaze rats .
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    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    How many live rats have YOU fed and ho many incident have you had?

    Is YOUR opinion based on experience and personal knowledge or is your opinion mainly a cultural thing knowing that a majority of European keepers look down and discourage live feeding even though it is not based on experience?

    That said , I've not been to the sun either but ok pretty certain that its blinkin hot !




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    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    That said , I've not been to the sun either but ok pretty certain that its blinkin hot !
    Well, since NOBODY has been to the sun that's a pretty safe thing to say. However in THIS discussion, you've had several people who gave their own opinions according to their own experiences.

    Nobody here is saying 'you must feed live' Heck I prefer feeding frozen/thawed myself. I just find it easier. What we ARE saying is that if you WANT to feed live, according to OUR experience, it's really not that dangerous.
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    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.

    I guess the rat below didn't get the email .

    http://www.herpcenter.com/reptile-ar...s-ball-python/




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    Honest opinions on feeding.

    We may as well drop this now.
    Maybe it's a cultural thing as mentioned above .
    I still find it odd that I'm causing stress by giving my Royals the occasional soak ( after a bed shed or to rehydrate ) and yet it's supposedly fine and dandy to drop an adult rat into an enclosed space with my soft little Royal
    Last edited by Zincubus; 01-25-2015 at 02:51 PM. Reason: edit




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    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    That said , I've not been to the sun either but ok pretty certain that its blinkin hot !
    Typical Comparing apple to oranges when lacking the ability to argue an opinion based on ZERO experience.

    Again it is about educating people about options and proper ways to feed not scaring them with the boogieman, you may benefit from being educated yourself instead of making blanket statements.
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    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    I guess the rat below didn't get the email .

    http://www.herpcenter.com/reptile-ar...s-ball-python/
    Please read the first sentence of your own link; "When an owner left a live rat in with a ball python FOR THE NIGHT"
    That isn't the result of an accidental scratch or bite. That is the result of someone being irresponsible.

    Is it safe to take children swimming? Yes. Is it safe to toss a kid into the ocean without water-wings? No. You're comparing two totally different situations as if they're the same thing when you compare live feeding to locking a rodent in with a BP overnight.

    If my BP doesn't show interest in prey within about a minute of being introduced, the prey comes out and we try again later. Those bites come from a long time alone with a rat, not a typical 2-minute feeding.
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    Re: Honest opinions on feeding.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarkS View Post
    Well, since NOBODY has been to the sun that's a pretty safe thing to say. However in THIS discussion, you've had several people who gave their own opinions according to their own experiences.

    Nobody here is saying 'you must feed live' Heck I prefer feeding frozen/thawed myself. I just find it easier. What we ARE saying is that if you WANT to feed live, according to OUR experience, it's really not that dangerous.
    Then again ' really not that dangerous ' can equate to " maybe a little risky "

    Why take a chance with a snake that could be worth hundreds of dollars !?




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