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    Re: Same alleles, different names or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by TessadasExotics View Post
    Nothing to do with it? lol You can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink. Alright I'm done trying to teach you something. You go on living in your sheltered life of denial. Both links are long papers explaining EXACTLY what is going on. Other species of animals can and do do the same thing. Just look at the research paper on the Tilapia.
    Funny how someone who thinks they know so much actually knows so little and refuses to research what they don't know.
    Instead of learning something youd rather tell lies and try to put down the one trying to show you something. Oh well. I'll not respond to you any further as it does nothing apparently.

    Have a nice life.
    problem with your metaphor is you can make him drink, which I did give you that chance in the last thread to show off your great knowledge. Lets look at that:

    Quote Originally Posted by TessadasExotics View Post
    Ok.
    Assume first female is an f1
    Female Bananas produce male and female offspring in apparently normal ratios.
    Male (f1) bananas produced from female(f1) bananas will produce mostly male Bananas. We can assume it to be 99% of the time. All normal or non Banana offspring are regular male/female ratios.
    This is not what is being reported by the people breeding these animals, Males produced from females will produce mostly female bananas and the non-banana offspring are not in regular ratios, they would be mostly male.

    Quote Originally Posted by TessadasExotics View Post
    If a female (f2) is produced from a "male maker" (f1) Banana, She will produce males and females at normal ratios, but any male (f2) Banana will now make females and males at in normal ratios.
    Female bananas produce normal ratio regardless of where they come from. There is no such thing as a male that produces normal ratios.

    Quote Originally Posted by TessadasExotics View Post
    So it is a sex linked recessive gene which does happen and is illustrated and explained in the previous links I posted for you.
    oh really?

    So unless you want to say the people breeding these things are lying to us and the people personally around me breeding them are just lucky they are getting the same results, no Tess you have no idea how the gene works. When this crap first broke loose I talked to Brock in person and he gave me his explanation (which is nothing like you are reporting) and quite a bit of clutch data numbers to back it up. While he might of incorrectly called it sex linked (which we have argued over) that is simply an argument about a definition, like arguing over co-dom vs inc-dom, not the mechanics of the gene, which simply break down to:

    Females produce normal ratios
    Males banana from male bananas produce mostly male bananas and thus producing mostly female non bananas
    Male banana from female banana produce mostly female bananas thus producing mostly male non bananas.

    The total clutch sex ratio are not skewed in any clutch, but one sex will tend to be the morph while the other will tend not to be if the gene is coming from the male.

    Not that isn't the 5th or so time I have presented this information to you, but you still seem to be stuck on that generational explanation which as I have pointed out multiple times, doesn't even follow the mechanics correctly. Forget me, talk to kevin, talk to brock, talk to mike, talk to anyone breeding these things and get your facts straight and stop spewing this crap you have been for years now.
    Last edited by OhhWatALoser; 12-25-2014 at 08:51 AM.

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