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Re: Same alleles, different names or not?
 Originally Posted by Daigga
Correct me if I'm wrong on any of this, still learning about the genetics involved, so my terminology might be wrong.
Butters and lessers are part of an allelic complex along with mojaves, bamboos, and het russos. When bred together any of these snakes produces a blue eyed leucistic animal (the super form of anything in this complex), however looking at each individual gene will show you that they are not all different names for the same gene. A mojo looks nothing like a het russo, and a lesser looks nothing like a bamboo. It's also worth mentioning that a white diamond BEL (the "super russo") looks way different than a super mojo, which looks different from the purer white BEL's. Lessers and butters look pretty similar, sure, and there are arguments either way on that topic, but that's a different debate. It's a weird jumble, and honestly The surest way to tell what's inside your BEL is to ask the breeder. I know there are other allelic combos, but the leucistic complex is the only one I've really looked into.
As for bananas, coral glows, and white smokes; many people argue that they are the same thing though I don't think it has been proven either way.
I guess I wasn't very clear with that. You are correct, most of the genes listed are actually alleles. Butter and Lesser are two names for the same and there is debate whether mystic and phantom are the same, but I have not dug too far into that debate, so I don't really know. However the rest are obviously different from each other, but breeding has shown them to sit on the same locus. Some of the combos don't even make BEL at all, special mojave makes a crystal.
Yellow Belly and Orange Belly are also more than likely the same, but with information with the graphite project still up in the air (which the orange bellies were used), we can't say for 100% they are same
As for banana cg (whitesmoke is another name for cg) well they are identical looking morphs that grow black spots as they age, have the same breeding anomaly that doesn't even have a name because it has never been seen in the animal kingdom that only effects the males, and produce identical looking supers. I think the chances of them being on different loci is as close to zero as you can get.
 Originally Posted by kaitala
I lied.  i read some but am going to ask now.
So if I have a Cinnamon het albino, and breed to a het toffee or candy, would I get a visual manifestation of the albino complex?
You have a chance to, If it was het toffee, you would have a 1/8 chance of getting a cinny toffino and a 1/8 chance at a toffino (or candino if it was het candy instead)
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