AP Cages?

[Maddithehuman]

She is on proper husbandry, I've had her for 2 years and never had an issue with her not being able to get proper lighting. She's not really lazy, she just doesn't move around a whole lot when she's in her cage because she doesn't have room in the vision cage I have her in now, which is why i wanted to upgrade her to AP cages ad well as my ball python.

[Maddithehuman]

My bad, I was thinking this was for a royal somehow.

I always like a bit of height. That said, there are AP cages that provide this so as JC said, go for some headroom.

I probably will get her a higher cage because thinking about it, she can almost reach her bulbs in her current cage and i dont want my baby to get hurt haha, which model would you recommend for a beardie?

[jclaiborne]

I probably will get her a higher cage because thinking about it, she can almost reach her bulbs in her current cage and i dont want my baby to get hurt haha, which model would you recommend for a beardie?

I keep my beardie, and blueys for that matter in a 4x2x2 with internal lighting (no domes) with 6 inches of dirt/sand mixture so they can burrow, working on a bio-active substrate setup.

[Maddithehuman]

Zelda(my beardie) is on carpet mats, and (I like to believe shes potty trained) she poops in her water dish every time so its super easy to clean up haha

[jclaiborne]

Zelda(my beardie) is on carpet mats, and (I like to believe shes potty trained) she poops in her water dish every time so its super easy to clean up haha

I am not trying to get in a debate here, but in the above post you stated you have had her for 2 years and your husbandry is correct. Carpet Mats are not a demonstartion of correct husbandry...They hold bacteria, do not provide the ability for your animal to dig/burrow, etc.

[Fraido]

I am not trying to get in a debate here, but in the above post you stated you have had her for 2 years and your husbandry is correct. Carpet Mats are not a demonstartion of correct husbandry...They hold bacteria, do not provide the ability for your animal to dig/burrow, etc.

There's really nothing wrong with keeping her beardie on what she's using, people keep them on paper towel and what-not, so I think she's good.

[jclaiborne]

There's really nothing wrong with keeping her beardie on what she's using, people keep them on paper towel and what-not, so I think she's good.

Soo doing the bare minimum is proper husbandry, this is the thought process that drives me insane with the reptile community? Going by your theory, just because other people provide sub-par care its ok. The same could be said for any animal then. People keep dogs chained to a tree with 5 ft of chain all day long and the dog lives, everyone else does it, so its ok? Most people would view that at animal neglect/abuse. But because its a reptile its ok? Rediculous. Look at the natural habitat for these animals, they are not BPs that spend 90 percent of their life in a dark burrow. Beardies (and most lizards in general other than maybe some geckos) move, they dig, the climb, they interact with their environment, when you eliminate their ability to do that they become lethargic or "lazy".

[Fraido]

Soo doing the bare minimum is proper husbandry, this is the thought process that drives me insane with the reptile community? Going by your theory, just because other people provide sub-par care its ok. The same could be said for any animal then. People keep dogs chained to a tree with 5 ft of chain all day long and the dog lives, everyone else does it, so its ok? Most people would view that at animal neglect/abuse. But because its a reptile its ok? Rediculous. Look at the natural habitat for these animals, they are not BPs that spend 90 percent of their life in a dark burrow. Beardies (and most lizards in general other than maybe some geckos) move, they dig, the climb, they interact with their environment, when you eliminate their ability to do that they become lethargic or "lazy".

The ranting, honestly, is not necessary, I am simply saying that OP's setup is fine, her beardie is clearly thriving, so she doesn't need to change anything.
Besides, I don't like using things like newspaper and papertowel in my reptiles' enclosures, I like making it look cool and feel more natural. But not everybody needs to have huge, amazing, natural enclosures for their reptiles. If someone chooses papertowel, or anything "sub par", it's not the end of the world, and it is certainly not neglect or abuse.

I'm sure the OP is taking good care of her reptiles.

[jclaiborne]

The ranting, honestly, is not necessary, I am simply saying that OP's setup is fine, her beardie is clearly thriving, so she doesn't need to change anything.
Besides, I don't like using things like newspaper and papertowel in my reptiles' enclosures, I like making it look cool and feel more natural. But not everybody needs to have huge, amazing, natural enclosures for their reptiles. If someone chooses papertowel, or anything "sub par", it's not the end of the world, and it is certainly not neglect or abuse.

I'm sure the OP is taking good care of her reptiles.

It's not a rant, this is constantly a topic of debate, and I have the ability to express my opinon/concent for improper husbandry, just like you have the right to say bare minimum is fine. Would you provide a "sub-par" environent for any animal other than a repitle? It's a simple question. Lets take it to an extreme here, just for fun, if you saw a picture dog breeding facility where there were wall to wall kennels with dogs shoved in them, paper towels on the floor, and no room to move, would that be acceptable or a puppy mill? So please explain why is it ok for people to justify cutting corners on the care of animals that have a life span of 20 years if cared for properly, especially when you said yourself you provide a natural setup for your animals.

[Fraido]

It's not a rant, this is constantly a topic of debate, and I have the ability to express my opinon/concent for improper husbandry, just like you have the right to say bare minimum is fine. Would you provide a "sub-par" environent for any animal other than a repitle? It's a simple question. Lets take it to an extreme here, just for fun, if you saw a picture dog breeding facility where there were wall to wall kennels with dogs shoved in them, paper towels on the floor, and no room to move, would that be acceptable or a puppy mill? So please explain why is it ok for people to justify cutting corners on the care of animals that have a life span of 20 years if cared for properly, especially when you said yourself you provide a natural setup for your animals.

This is not the place for this conversation, so, sucks that we have different opinions. I am not going to argue/discuss this with you, I am moving on. I simply stated my opinion so it doesn't need to become some heated discussion, like you said, I am allowed to state my opinion.