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    Re: No eyes, one eye, and small eyes

    I have already hatched one clutch from the sire, the candino, and where the female did not prove to be het for albino, all of the hatchlings came out perfect, so it makes me lean more towards the female since it is her first season to lay and because of that I have nothing to compare her against.

    Now my question unfortunately is, with their lower jaws being so much shorter than their upper jaw, can they have a good life, as far as eating, comfort, basically not being completely miserable where it would be in their better interest to cull them?

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    Re: No eyes, one eye, and small eyes

    The underbite and being eyeless both are not death sentences.
    Your best bet is to wait and see if they can eat properly, and if they can't it could be best to euthanize.
    Otherwise, they can probably be adopted out as pets

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    Re: No eyes, one eye, and small eyes

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeM75 View Post
    I have already hatched one clutch from the sire, the candino, and where the female did not prove to be het for albino, all of the hatchlings came out perfect, so it makes me lean more towards the female since it is her first season to lay and because of that I have nothing to compare her against.
    I would highly doubt one parent to be the problem, unless that parent also shows the same deformities. It's more likely the both of them together are just an unlucky pairing.

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    Re: No eyes, one eye, and small eyes

    Quote Originally Posted by MikeM75 View Post
    I have already hatched one clutch from the sire, the candino, and where the female did not prove to be het for albino, all of the hatchlings came out perfect, so it makes me lean more towards the female since it is her first season to lay and because of that I have nothing to compare her against.

    Now my question unfortunately is, with their lower jaws being so much shorter than their upper jaw, can they have a good life, as far as eating, comfort, basically not being completely miserable where it would be in their better interest to cull them?
    Honestly, and this ia just my opinion, id cull them. I find it hard to believe that they'd have a good quality of life with the jaw issues.

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    Re: No eyes, one eye, and small eyes

    Here are a few pictures of these guys, 4 made it out.




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    Poor babies! I personally would do what someone else said and see how they are with eating a thriving. They're jaws are clearly deformed, but they don't look bad enough to interfere with eating IMO. I would see how they do then adopt them out as pets only. I would totally take one of those! Good luck.
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    As odd as they look, they are still cute. A couple with chunks missing out of their upper jaws might have some trouble, but the others should be okay as long as they will eat. That first one in the first picture is adorable!


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    Re: No eyes, one eye, and small eyes

    If they can smell the prey because obviously can't see them. NO LIVE haha as if it weren't obvious.

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    Those jaw deformities......If I had to guess what caused this I would go out on a limb and say bacterial infection within the egg during development. Did you manually separate the eggs from one another early on?

    Also, I would cull the deformed ones. No sense in letting them suffer with those horrific deformities.
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    The severely deformed one I would put down. The others, you will have to wait and see.

    The problem with underbites like those is that it make it VERY difficult for the animal to eat on it's on if it even will and obviously having to assist feed an animal for the rest of his life is no quality of life.

    I hatched 2 animals with underbites and neither one ever fed on their own.

    That's not fun but it is the other side of breeding that we all have to deal with sooner or later.
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