Damn you were in our neck of the woods then. Too bad it wasn't this weekend you could have hit up the expo. I wish I'd have know also because there was an AWESOME Lemon Pastel for sale up there recently. I agree with the geo locator too mostly because that's hilarious! Mike.. Ah gotcha then, that makes sense. I've been in this hobby for quite some time now, almost 2 and a half months so I'm shocked I haven't met these guys in person yet lol I know that I'll run into them eventually and will probably start buying a percentage of my collection from local breeders so it's good to hear that basically the only ones out here are cool. I'm very interested in seeing some of these collections out here in the PNW! Most websites suck as people never update them so I'm left thinking they only have a handful of snakes which I'm sure isn't the case. Have you ever ran into some one from Russo's reptiles? They seem to have some awesome boas.