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Super's x normals
Ok so I was doing some reading and I am confused. If I breed a super morph x normal will I get 50% normals 50% what the supers gene is? Then a super x a one gene female (not a normal)
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With super x normal, you will get 100% single gene hatchlings - no normals.
Example: Super Pastel x Normal = All Pastels
This is why supers are beneficial as breeders - predictable results.
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Correct, if you breed a super to a normal, you get no normals. If bred to an animal carrying other genes, then those genes may be present as well but each baby produced by a super will have half of their genetics which is always a morph. if that makes sense. Worldofballpythons.com and owalreptiles.com both have great genetics calculators if you want to check them out.
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this is especially important when you want to do line-breeding and want to improve a gene this way.
for example: you get a nice male fire and a nice female fire and breed them, and you hatch a nice male super fire.
now you take that nice super fire, and breed it to 3 selected nice normal females. you get a ton of fires, nothing else, all hatchlings are single-gene fire. and you pick the best of the best, you produce 20, you sell 18, you keep two. selective breeding is about repeating this process, line-breeding adds inbreeding to the equation. with inbreeding, you can speed it up and fix certain traits, but you risk adverse effects like inbreeding depression.
all breeders do selective breeding, that is clear, but many breeders put their own limits on inbreeding. but anyway, for a breeder, supers are really useful, when you want to make fireflys you breed a super fire male to 2 or 3 super pastel females, and all of them are fireflys. 100%. and now you can choose your holdback firefly and sell the others. a breeder with many supers can produce combos on demand. people want mochis? lets put the super enchi to some super mojave girls. people want mystic potions? its nice to have a super mystic male in that case, pair him with anything mojave you have.
supers bring consistency. if you want to get a 5-gene-world-first-whatever, supers are not for you, better just breed a pewter fire to a yellowbelly enchi and hope for the odd gods.
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Re: Super's x normals
 Originally Posted by dustponds10
Ok so I was doing some reading and I am confused.
What are you reading that makes you not understand the simplicity of the "super" form of a gene?
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I was reading some breeding and crossing info and got confused. I thought logically it would be 50/50 but that was me reading and trying to understand from my limited knowledge. I think I may have found what I am going to try to work with. I'll probably get 6 snakes. First pair would be pastels to breed for a super with the same plan for yellow bellies. The other two are going to be pieds. Just because I want to incorporate that into all my genetics with an eventual ultramel gene as well. I to be honest am just wanting to figure out the direction I want to go in the breeding world. These genetics are amaxing and intriguing. I don't get near the genetic fix or progress with my genetic hackle chickens used for tying flies. It's awesome to be able to work with animals and get some what of a guarentee of a visual genetic change. I'm a genetic nerd but it's a newly diagnosed interest and I'm still grasping.
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