JCP vs. BRB activity level question

[vangarret2000]

Here is a couple pictures to show you sizes of adult carpets and Brbs.
This is my adult male brb. I don't usually weight my snakes but I bred my Brbs this year so I did for both of them. I can't remember their exact weight but they were about 2000g give or take.



My carpets I don't know their weight but the are much much heavier then my Brbs are. You can see by the pictures that carpets have more girth to them then Brbs. Someone mentioned jungles get about the girth of a red bull can(not sure if it was here or another thread) but an adult are actually more like a coke can or a little larger even.

This is my jungle carpet.


Here is my female brb. Pic isn't great but it's because she is hopefully gravid so I don't wanna move her.


And here is my coastal carpet just because.


Both like I said before are quick species when you are handling them but I find carpets a little easier to handle then Brbs. Their extra weight just keeps them a tad slower.

[creatism]

An adult female carpet, or male if your like me and have a 7 footer, will weigh in at 3-4 kilos. 3000-4000 grams! They are not small snakes, but aren't exactly big ones either.
Here is my adult caramel as you can see she is easily contained in one hand.

Carpets are just about the best species out there!!


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[vangarret2000]

Carpets are just about the best species out there!!


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Agreed

[artgecko]

Thanks so much for the info and great pics! I still love the way both species look, but I think the carpet will be my first purchase. I like that they aren't super thin (like, say, corns).

I'm hoping that I get lucky and find some nice ones at the show, but if not, I may wait and purchase a baby from a good breeder. inland reptiles has a couple nice looking ones at the moment, but they are mostly sold out of their jungles.

As far as rainbows go, I've heard rainbows r us has nice animals, so again, at least I'll have somewhere to look if I come up empty handed at the show.

Thanks again for your input and help!

[loud]

Thanks so much for the info and great pics! I still love the way both species look, but I think the carpet will be my first purchase. I like that they aren't super thin (like, say, corns).

I'm hoping that I get lucky and find some nice ones at the show, but if not, I may wait and purchase a baby from a good breeder. inland reptiles has a couple nice looking ones at the moment, but they are mostly sold out of their jungles.

As far as rainbows go, I've heard rainbows r us has nice animals, so again, at least I'll have somewhere to look if I come up empty handed at the show.

Thanks again for your input and help!

Awesome decision, and I'm most definitely biased Was hesitant about getting a JCP for my first snake, but I have to say that I'm so glad I did!!! They really do have more personality than I could have imagined, and are so much fun. Mine is active and almost always perched somewhere in full view. He's curious and inquisitive and will lean forward to investigate any time someone comes by his enclosure. Easy to handle (especially for a baby), and has only nipped at me a handful of times. Even then, I like him more than my adult corn snake, and the corn is the sweetest, most docile snake I've ever seen. There is just something fun about having a smug, sassy, active snake like a Jungle Carpet Python! They're just so interesting... and beautiful to look at, too.

This is my 2013 male from Inland Reptile




By the way, have you contacted Nick about his Jungles yet? I know he doesn't have much on his website right now, but if you don't mind waiting a bit he might have some available later! He just e-mailed me a week ago that he'll have over 400 Carpet hatchlings this year and will begin to add them to the website once they're established eaters. There's bound to be some Jungles in that 400!!! If you e-mail him and he doesn't get back immediately, don't worry about that either. He's always excellent with communication and most likely has just been busy.

Another good breeder to contact is Rich, or "3skulls" here on the forum. Here is his Facebook page - Creature Addiction. I don't know about availability, but his JCPs look incredible and he's a really fantastic guy. Very helpful and personable! I know he has a big thread on the forum somewhere with all of his herps, just can't remember where it is atm.

[Gio]

Nice to see this thread didn't die. It's actually becoming more informative.

I think I was the one who mentioned the can of Red Bull, but it was in relation to the Darwin carpet. There are various sizes of Red Bull cans, but the male that was 3 years old and 6' long I'd considered was about Red Bull can sized.

I'm not sure which can though LOL!

I'm very fond of carpets, and really can only think of 2 other species that would interest me outside of carpets and BC's.

SD retic, or Eastern king.

The activity level and semi arboreal qualities of the carpets make them a lot of fun.

[artgecko]

Loud, thank you for your jcp pics and the info on nick. Your jcp has such vibrant colors and contrast! Do you happen to have a pic of him when he was younger?
Nick is at the top of my list to look at and your positive feedback reinforced that. I will also check out 3skulls, thanks for his FB link.

Thanks again for by our help!

[loud]

Loud, thank you for your jcp pics and the info on nick. Your jcp has such vibrant colors and contrast! Do you happen to have a pic of him when he was younger?
Nick is at the top of my list to look at and your positive feedback reinforced that. I will also check out 3skulls, thanks for his FB link.

Thanks again for by our help!

I do! He recently turned a year old, so I was doing some side by side comparisons for fun.

These are from when he was still with the breeder (at 3 months and then at 5 months)




6 - 7 months (when I first got him)


1 year (now)




He is out of Nick's 2008 JCP female (produced by Will Leary), and sired by his 2011 zebra male.

When I e-mailed Nick with updates, he says that he should get even brighter, and I suspect the same. Actually meant to take him out today for more pictures, but he was in blue again. He's been coming out consistently cleaner and/or brighter with each shed, so looking forward to watching him develop into an adult!

I let Nick know what I was looking for, and he sent me pictures and family trees so that I could narrow it down. He helped a lot in offering his opinions and experience, and went out of his way to get updated pictures. Even humored me and "tested" their temperaments He is great to work with, and I definitely got the snake I wanted!! Will definitely be getting some more from him in the future.

Found 3skulls' (Rich's) thread as well! Here it is: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ake-Collection

And no problem at all! As you can tell, I love talking about my JCP!

[Gio]

I do! He recently turned a year old, so I was doing some side by side comparisons for fun.

These are from when he was still with the breeder (at 3 months and then at 5 months)




6 - 7 months (when I first got him)


1 year (now)




He is out of Nick's 2008 JCP female (produced by Will Leary), and sired by his 2011 zebra male.

When I e-mailed Nick with updates, he says that he should get even brighter, and I suspect the same. Actually meant to take him out today for more pictures, but he was in blue again. He's been coming out consistently cleaner and/or brighter with each shed, so looking forward to watching him develop into an adult!

I let Nick know what I was looking for, and he sent me pictures and family trees so that I could narrow it down. He helped a lot in offering his opinions and experience, and went out of his way to get updated pictures. Even humored me and "tested" their temperaments He is great to work with, and I definitely got the snake I wanted!! Will definitely be getting some more from him in the future.

Found 3skulls' (Rich's) thread as well! Here it is: http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...ake-Collection

And no problem at all! As you can tell, I love talking about my JCP!

That's a kick ass carpet no matter how you slice it. Older,, younger, it doesn't matter. Great looking jungle and thanks for keeping this post going!

[artgecko]

Update: Went to the show and was quite disappointed. There were some random jags, coast als, and jungles being sold by resellers; a pair of coastal being sold together; and some mixes that all had poor color. There was one awesome high yellow jag that was already sold. Overall, maybe 9 carpets at the whole show. Also only saw one BRB. I ended up buying a hypo bci and a cinny bp. Even my husband seemed disappointed in the carpets and suggested that I just wait and get one from a breeder online.

The good news? My husband was hesitant about the carpets when a seller talked about them biting so much, but ended up being won over when he saw a seller with a 6 foot bright yellow adult around his shoulders. :-)