Cinnamon VS Black Pastel

[MarkS]

its not opinion, luecistic has a definition

And your definition is not quite complete. 'Leucistic' is derived from the root word 'Leuco' which simply means white, weakly colored or colorless. Nothing more.

[dreese88]

its not opinion, luecistic has a definition

Well...according to the definition you give, these aren't lucy's.

http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...lack+eyed+lucy

2nd pic down
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...lack+eyed+lucy

[NorthernRegius]

Back to the Topic- I work with the GCR line of Black Pastels- because I like them. There seems to be darker colourtion overall & I like the unusual patterns you find more often within the Black Pastels.

I also have a Cinny Pewter & Black Pewter so I can play with both those crosses- BUT as a base morph the Black Pastel had me at hello.

Some of mine:

[Ducky]

personally I think there are significant differences between the two as regards color and pattern, however they both modify the same gene in similar ways. I've got both now and if I didn't know any better, I'd swear they were two completely different mutations just on looks alone. They might be considered alleles, different mutations of the same gene, similar to the differences between Lesser Platinums and Mojaves.

But what are the "significant differences"?

[Zach Cedor]

But what are the "significant differences"?

this thread is from 2009?

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[Pythonfriend]

oh no.... its a


ZOMBIE THREAD

[wescoast]

mojave is what they call a deluted gene. lesser and mojave are different, but lesser x butter is the same thing as cinny x black pastel, same morph different line.

i can put 2 normals next to each other that will look way more different than the cinny/black pastel you posted above, could probally find pastels that look more different. there are cinny/black pastels that look pretty similar.

Can your elaborate on how mojaves are a diluted gene please?

[Pythonfriend]

Can your elaborate on how mojaves are a diluted gene please?

its totally outdated. would you want to elaborate on some stuff you posted in 2009, after 5 more years of learning about genetics have passed?

much has changed in these 5 years. everyone is now sure that cinnamon and black pastel are different genes that are allelic. and the consensus is that its totally fine to call a white snake leucistic, even if it has a grey head, or some yellow on the back or whatever. and there are no diluted genes.

[MasonC2K]