Artificial propagation license questions?

[bassistjon112]

To any one who has a artificial propagation license in PA, how do you dispose of of your waste water. I ask because one of the questions on the application asks how will I do that. It also asks what precautions do I take to make sure no organisms escape. I see this is geared more towards aquatic life(ill breed shrimp and corals as well) but I guess I would add specific reptiles names to the part asking what Ill propagate in a closed system.



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[JohnNJ]

Why do you need an artificial propagation license in relation to BP's?

[bassistjon112]

Why do you need an artificial propagation license in relation to BP's?

A person needs one if the intend breed/propagate reptiles or aquatic organisms in PA.

[JohnNJ]

I'm not sure that license applies to ball pythons. Have you called and spoken to someone about it?

[Pythonfriend]

artificial propagation license?

you lost me when i typed it into wikipedia and got redirected to "plant propagation"

but i gathered that it refers to any method, sexually or asexually, of producing new individuals from old ones. and it mostly applies to plants. but you say it applies to reptiles and aquatic species.

you need a license for that?

weird, very weird. could this issue be solved by doing it in a different state?

im just trying to figure it out.

[bassistjon112]

artificial propagation license?

you lost me when i typed it into wikipedia and got redirected to "plant propagation"

but i gathered that it refers to any method, sexually or asexually, of producing new individuals from old ones. and it mostly applies to plants. but you say it applies to reptiles and aquatic species.

you need a license for that?

weird, very weird. could this issue be solved by doing it in a different state?

im just trying to figure it out.

Here is a link

This doesn't apply to plants. I have a whole different license for plants, that's called a nursery license.

[JohnNJ]

I called and you do need that license to breed BP to sell. Non-residents that want to sell at a show like Hamburg need a dealer license. Never knew that. Sorry I can't help you on the application but it is interesting.

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[bassistjon112]

I called and you do need that license to breed BP to sell. Non-residents that want to sell at a show like Hamburg need a dealer license. Never knew that. Sorry I can't help you on the application but it is interesting.

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Thanks for the info. I'm probably the only person in PA that's going to have this license to breed BP legitimately jk..

[Pythonfriend]

umm..... i dont know how tough they are when it comes to these applications. and im no legal expert. just trying to come up with something that whoever reads the application might find useful. i read the form, and i think its geared to prevent the release of invasive species.

for BPs its easy.... as a tropical species, (native to equatorial Africa, found in nations like Ghana and Benin where it never gets cold) they cannot possibly survive in the wild given the climate of Pennsylvania, also the enclosures are designed in such a way that the BPs will be physically too large to escape.

shrimp and corals.... are you talking about species for salt water aquaristics, marine lifeforms? can they survive in fresh water? if they cannot possibly survive in fresh water then argue that. and point out the distance between your facility and the sea. if they cannot survive in the cold temperatures typical for pennsylvania (in the winter?), argue that as well. it may be harder for fresh water species, but you said: shrimp and corals, so i think we are dealing with marine species.

for the BPs also argue that they are common in the pet trade. if the corals and shrimp you want to work with are also common in the pet trade in Pennsylvania, also point that out.

then it may be enough to simply say that your wastewater goes into the sewers. i dont see how you would need any special treatment of the water if you can really make the point that they cannot possibly survive in any natural fresh water or the sewers in Pennsylvania.

the BP part seems really easy and straightforward, when it comes to the shrimps and corals you have to be aware that i am speculating in the form of "if this.... then that...". if there is a chance that they could survive in fresh water and/or the sewers and/or they could reach the coast somehow, then everything is different, and you may need to treat the water somehow, with filtration or disinfection or something. and the biggest assumption is that this is really all about preventing the introduction of invasive species.

good luck

[bassistjon112]

umm..... i dont know how tough they are when it comes to these applications. and im no legal expert. just trying to come up with something that whoever reads the application might find useful. i read the form, and i think its geared to prevent the release of invasive species.

for BPs its easy.... as a tropical species, (native to equatorial Africa, found in nations like Ghana and Benin where it never gets cold) they cannot possibly survive in the wild given the climate of Pennsylvania, also the enclosures are designed in such a way that the BPs will be physically too large to escape.

shrimp and corals.... are you talking about species for salt water aquaristics, marine lifeforms? can they survive in fresh water? if they cannot possibly survive in fresh water then argue that. and point out the distance between your facility and the sea. if they cannot survive in the cold temperatures typical for pennsylvania (in the winter?), argue that as well. it may be harder for fresh water species, but you said: shrimp and corals, so i think we are dealing with marine species.

for the BPs also argue that they are common in the pet trade. if the corals and shrimp you want to work with are also common in the pet trade in Pennsylvania, also point that out.

then it may be enough to simply say that your wastewater goes into the sewers. i dont see how you would need any special treatment of the water if you can really make the point that they cannot possibly survive in any natural fresh water or the sewers in Pennsylvania.

the BP part seems really easy and straightforward, when it comes to the shrimps and corals you have to be aware that i am speculating in the form of "if this.... then that...". if there is a chance that they could survive in fresh water and/or the sewers and/or they could reach the coast somehow, then everything is different, and you may need to treat the water somehow, with filtration or disinfection or something. and the biggest assumption is that this is really all about preventing the introduction of invasive species.

good luck

Yeah the corals and shrimp are tropical species. Ill probably just have to fill it out and hope for the best.