Which one, which one...

[slickshadowrunner]

So having been the owner of my normal female for precisely a month, I have recognized that I have been 'bitten by the bug' and must now get more. Problem is, funds are REALLY tight. so what I'm thinking of is to get a male I can breed my female with and make some money back on selling the little ones. I live next to a couple of breeders in the area so availability is not too bad. The question is this though; in view of the fact that money is tight, I can afford a single-gene at most. If I can somehow find the coin for a double-gene, great, but I'm not counting on it. So in view of the fact that I can afford a single-gene male, which gene should I go with to try to give myself as much opportunity to make money on selling the babies later and for long-term breeding? I can get pastels easy for example, and they are not expensive, but I don't see much of a market for pastels (and I don't really like them either). What do you guys think? Which single morph is best to start with?

[Jackie]

How about a spider? Also, it's just my humble opinion that breeding to make money is not a good idea. If you make money, great, but it should go back into your collection. Or saved in case something goes wrong (like a snake gets sick) but going into it with the mind set of making money isn't a good idea.

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[slickshadowrunner]

I looked at Spiders. It's a distinct possibility. And just to clarify, I'm not as much looking to make money from breeding as much as I am looking to recoup the money I spent on buying the male in the first place. I am more likely to be able to free up funds if I feel I can recoup the money fairly easily by selling young ones after the fact. How popular are spiders in the marketplace vs other single-genes?

[bcr229]

So having been the owner of my normal female for precisely a month, I have recognized that I have been 'bitten by the bug' and must now get more. Problem is, funds are REALLY tight. so what I'm thinking of is to get a male I can breed my female with and make some money back on selling the little ones. I live next to a couple of breeders in the area so availability is not too bad. The question is this though; in view of the fact that money is tight, I can afford a single-gene at most.

You can find decent single-gene hatchling males for under $100 at expos or from local breeders.

My question though, is can you afford the other normal expenses associated with breeding: the incubator and its thermostat (can't go cheap here), a hatchling rack and its accessories (another decent thermostat, tubs, more hides and water dishes), or worse, the unexpected expenses such as a vet bill for an egg-bound female? Do you have a good exotics vet conveniently close?

[slickshadowrunner]

One of the local breeders is my buddy and has graciously allowed me the use of his incubator. And yes, there is a vet nearby. So if I spend under $100 for a male, which morph would you suggest to give me the greatest possibility to be able to sell the youngsters? I'm trying to avoid buying a morph which nobody likes.

[dr del]

What are mojaves going for lately?

[Ladybugzcrunch]

wow OP nough said.

[Pythonfriend]

if you really want to make money back, you need to consider all the associated cost that come with a second snake and breeding. enclosure, food, hatchling rack, incubator, thermostats, substrate, electricity, potential vet visits.

im no fan of cutting corners, and to get everything in decent and reasonable quality, i think we are looking at a few hundred dollars.

then, the prices for all morphs fall from season to season. and breeding also has randomness and luck involved, as in, you might get morph males and normal females, or straightforward bad odds, or just 4 eggs, or no eggs at all.

i think it may be impossible to make any surplus with a 100 dollar male and a normal female.

(hypothetically, if you could go for a morph that is right now worth 1000 dollars or 5000 dollars, you might still not succeed, because you will be competing with others that breed the same morph to 4 or 5 high-end multi-gene females that reliably produce large numbers of eggs. so the price may fall too fast for you.)

another issue is that people have a strong tendency to buy from reputable breeders if there is no price difference, as a first time breeder quite a substantial price difference may be required to sell anything. and currently the market seems to be flooded with low-end single gene morphs.

i think it will be cheaper to just get a nice male, and keep him as a second pet.

but im strictly looking at the financial issue. if you can get it done, in itself, i see absolutely no problem with producing a clutch like this. just dont be surprised if it turns out to be an expensive hobby, dont expect to make any money.

[Morris Reese]

I am looking to breed in a couple of years. I am not looking at making any money, I just want to produce a nice holdback and sell the rest. My financial plan is that everything all the way to the point I sell will be out of pocket expense. My only hope is that I can sell the rest and make enough to feed and care for my holdback for a little while. I would just like to have one (for now) in my collection that I could say I produced.

[REBELLMORPH]

I will go for Mojave