How'd you guess the vet's a real skinny guy? The exact word he used was overweight. No, he's not really an exotic specialist, I was just hoping he was so I wouldn't have to take both snakes forty miles to the other vet. (The other vet in Apple Valley advertises himself as an exotics vet. He at least knows more than the one I to which I just took them.) I'll try to get my son to post a picture for me since I'm not a techie at this. Hurly is a skinny guy that weighs exactly 1 pound, hence the gram weight of 453.592 grams with which I came up (yep, the vet didn't even weigh Hurly in grams even though I told him to do so).