Other than the same types of people who are either so lost about genetics that they would try to sell you a het pastel, or the ones that would intentionally try to sell you a het pastel, I doubt many people have ever tried to sell crider line ultramels as being the same gene. I take it more as being along the same lines as the different lines of ghost that are out there, visually it appears to be an ultramel, it's from the crider line, simple as that.

I do think it's easy for people, especially newer ones, to get confused and overall it will be much simpler if they do prove to be the same gene. We have enough confusion for different reasons as it is, so I'm watching and hoping to see a clutch of visual ultramel/criders pipping this year instead of some double hets!