Firearms

[Firemaniv]

I have my FFL/sot in use at my "Brick & Motar". I carry a fnp-45 in a cross breed everyday I am not at the fire Department. I would have it in the truck but My FD is on a military base so..... My current project is getting a personal tax stamp to make my scar 17 into a sbr using the 13" fn barrel assembly. I am also saving up for a MRAD now that the new barel conv. kits are out. I wish I had more time to shoot more than I get to.

anyone reload? I just got a dillion 650.

[Neal]

Perhaps I should have said that the chance of it being inhumane is very high rather than that it's absolutely inhumane. That said, you're essentially picking linguistic nits in order to try to deflect the fact that I called you out on an inappropriate action after you declared yourself to be proud of it.



Glad to hear that what you did was not illegal in your area. It *is* illegal in many places, however, so I felt it pertinent to mention in case you had put yourself in a compromising position by posting about it on a public forum or in case there were others reading about it who were not aware of the potential legal concerns should they attempt to duplicate your actions.



I never said you couldn't achieve a lethal shot with it. Just about any gun can be lethal with perfect shot placement. The reason that I say it's likely to be inhumane is that your margin for error is MUCH smaller with a 20-grain .17 caliber projectile than with a larger round like a .270 or a .308. Wind drift can be an issue with a bullet of that size, leading to less certainty in shot placement. Tiny bullets at high velocities are also a significant fragmentation risk, which leads to concerns about low penetration. I'm not saying it can't be done, but rather that it's a very poor idea, and that even in a scenario where it's legal to use, *I* personally wouldn't be willing to take the chance.

You called me out for something you thought to be illegal. Just because you think it's inappropriate doesn't make it so. That would be like me saying a girl in a two piece bikini is inappropriate, does it make it true? No, it doesn't. I'm also sorry that you don't have enough confidence to hit the vital area. With my FN Five-seveN which keep in mind is a pistol, but naturally a rifle round. I hit a deer size target(fake target, not a real animal) about 150 yards out. Now the FN is known for accuracy which is why I wanted to try this, and if the target was any smaller I most likely would of missed. Also keep in mind I was using iron sights as well, with no type of magnification.

The thing here is don't call somebody out if you're not ready for somebody to say something back, especially me. I don't hold my tongue.

My favorite is my .338 Lapua...it makes a big boom..

It does and it's a lovely gun. I almost bought one, but I couldn't justify spending $1800 on the gun alone without any optics. Then the price of the round at nearly $5 a round, I would never shoot it. lol

I would love to get a Sako TRG-42! I've sold many and owned none.

I'd also like a few of the Swarovski, Schmidt & Bender, and Zeiss Optics I've sold as well lol.

But to date my most expensive gun has been my $4300 trap gun. Shot at the state level with it. Even had a fully adjustable hydraulic buttstock. You could literally tune the compression, rebound, stroke length, lenth of pull, caster, camber, and toe. It was like a racecar suspension custom for to the gun haha.


I like my Dubstep to go Wop Wop Wop Wop

Savage makes a .338 Lapua it's the Savage 110 BA.

[Expensive hobby]

You called me out for something you thought to be illegal. Just because you think it's inappropriate doesn't make it so. That would be like me saying a girl in a two piece bikini is inappropriate, does it make it true? No, it doesn't. I'm also sorry that you don't have enough confidence to hit the vital area. With my FN Five-seveN which keep in mind is a pistol, but naturally a rifle round. I hit a deer size target(fake target, not a real animal) about 150 yards out. Now the FN is known for accuracy which is why I wanted to try this, and if the target was any smaller I most likely would of missed. Also keep in mind I was using iron sights as well, with no type of magnification.

The thing here is don't call somebody out if you're not ready for somebody to say something back, especially me. I don't hold my tongue.



It does and it's a lovely gun. I almost bought one, but I couldn't justify spending $1800 on the gun alone without any optics. Then the price of the round at nearly $5 a round, I would never shoot it. lol

Savage makes a .338 Lapua it's the Savage 110 BA.

Wow didn't know savage made a lapua chambering. They didn't when I sold guns but that was years and years ago.

As much as I love Savage for price, accuracy and dependability, Sako's TRG is in a completely different class lol. Kinda like accuracy international, or Anschütz.


I like my Dubstep to go Wop Wop Wop Wop

[Neal]

Wow didn't know savage made a lapua chambering. They didn't when I sold guns but that was years and years ago.

As much as I love Savage for price, accuracy and dependability, Sako's TRG is in a completely different class lol. Kinda like accuracy international, or Anschütz.


I like my Dubstep to go Wop Wop Wop Wop

I've shot that Savage, but I can't vouch for the other two brands as I've never shot their 338. The Savage I shot had the Nightforce NXS 12-42x56 scope on it. I zoomed in around 600 yards and I had the 12" target covering the scope lol. Anyways, at 600 yards I was nailing headshots. I fired 8 rounds, the first one was slightly off, so once I made the adjustmenets the other 7 shots hit spot in. It has a great muzzle brake thankfully, because my shoulder was killing me lol.

[PitOnTheProwl]

You called me out for something you thought to be illegal. Just because you think it's inappropriate doesn't make it so.

I have killed many hogs with .22 mags.............. while in a trap. Would I try it with one on the run? No. Could I do it? Yes.
Morally or ethically it is wrong in my eyes to kill anything just to kill it and/or gamble on how quickly you can kill it. When I squeeze my trigger its because I am confident that it will be DRT and I wont have to track it at all. I have never taken a shot is there was any question and yes that includes an under powered round.
My .17 Mach II will punch paper out to 200 yards in dime sized groups all day everyday. Would I try to shoot a squirrel at that range? No, there is not enough velocity left in the round out there.


All that aside, this is the other reason I said no to your offer, I am tired of seeing all of the other stupid pissing matches here and a gun room can and will just add to it.

[CD CONSTRICTORS]

My favorite of all my firearms is my custom built F-Class 6.5x284. Took about 6 months to build and traveled the country during construction.

Robertson fiberglass stock with adjustable cheekpiece and 3 way buttplate bedded by Alex Sittman, Broughton 31" barrel chambered by Carl Bernosky, Panda action, Jewell trigger at 3oz and a Nightforce 12-42x50mm scope.

Will shoot 0.300 MOA at 300yds and well under MOA at 600yds and 1000yds. It was purpose built for match use and I generally shoot every month at 600yds in Palm Bay, FL.



1000yd practice session:


600yd match target. The outside of the white line on 10 ring is 6" diameter and the 22 shot group measures 4.005"

[CD CONSTRICTORS]

I also reload for everything I own. Pistol stuff is done on a Dillon RL550B and my match brass is done one at a time on a Lee single stage press for precision.

Just a pic of my bench and a video I made for a few members on another forum who wanted to know how I loaded match brass.

[Neal]

I have killed many hogs with .22 mags.............. while in a trap. Would I try it with one on the run? No. Could I do it? Yes.
Morally or ethically it is wrong in my eyes to kill anything just to kill it and/or gamble on how quickly you can kill it. When I squeeze my trigger its because I am confident that it will be DRT and I wont have to track it at all. I have never taken a shot is there was any question and yes that includes an under powered round.
My .17 Mach II will punch paper out to 200 yards in dime sized groups all day everyday. Would I try to shoot a squirrel at that range? No, there is not enough velocity left in the round out there.


All that aside, this is the other reason I said no to your offer, I am tired of seeing all of the other stupid pissing matches here and a gun room can and will just add to it.

I get what both of you mean, but I didn't think it was wrong because I knew my ability and the distance. We were upwind of the deer and it had no idea. He was eating grass when I took the shot and he wasn't that far away. I've never had to track anything that I've shot and I only take sure shots as well bro.

My favorite of all my firearms is my custom built F-Class 6.5x284. Took about 6 months to build and traveled the country during construction.

Robertson fiberglass stock with adjustable cheekpiece and 3 way buttplate bedded by Alex Sittman, Broughton 31" barrel chambered by Carl Bernosky, Panda action, Jewell trigger at 3oz and a Nightforce 12-42x50mm scope.

Will shoot 0.300 MOA at 300yds and well under MOA at 600yds and 1000yds. It was purpose built for match use and I generally shoot every month at 600yds in Palm Bay, FL.



1000yd practice session:


600yd match target. The outside of the white line on 10 ring is 6" diameter and the 22 shot group measures 4.005"

I love it dude. I've yet to find a range that I can shoot 1000 yards, or even a few hundred here. I was up North when I was able to shoot that Savage.

[Firemaniv]

So anyone had a chance to look at one of these? Opinions?

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[Slim]

Opinions?

Bullpups have never been my bowl of rice. Got a chance to shoot several different models when I was active. You know how it is when you train with a foreign service, the first thing you want to do is shoot the other guys weapons LOL. Did some training back in the late 80's with the Canadian SOR, and they carried the only bullpup type rifle that I would consider owning as a personal weapon. I can't remember the designation of it, but I remember it being a gas operated AR type action in a bullpup configuration. I think it was chambered in 5.56, but I can't really remember now.