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    Re: BP cage critique

    Quote Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    Inside the tank is a totall bad idea for one. Second you should know ball pythons burrow so what is the actual temperature of the heat mat itself? I assume you are measuring the surface temps of your sbrstrate to between 90 and 95 degrees, this should put you mat about 105 to 110. Either way your surface temps are either too low or your mat is waiting to brun your snake. Without any air flow around it, it is a huge worry fot you and us as well.

    I have heard they can burrow but i have never seen mine burrow in cypress mulch.
    The mat operates at a max temperature of 100f and theres like 2-3" of substrate inbetween the snake, and my rheostat shuts off power when the temperature reaches 90-93f ~.25" under the surface. The max temps of the ground in his hide this week ranged from 90-93f, im not worried about burning my snake.
    Unless he decides to burrow all the sudden.

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    Re: BP cage critique

    Quote Originally Posted by student117 View Post
    im not worried about burning my snake.
    Unless he decides to burrow all the sudden.
    He will almost assuredly decide to burrow at some point.

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    Re: BP cage critique

    Assuming he burrows and gets to the mat and assuming the mat has reached its maximum temperature of 100F.
    Will that burn him?

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    Re: BP cage critique

    Quote Originally Posted by student117 View Post
    Assuming he burrows and gets to the mat and assuming the mat has reached its maximum temperature of 100F.
    Will that burn him?
    There is no assuming here at all. It will happen. Also keep in mind that a rheostat does not monitor the temp at all it only controls the amount of electricity delivered to the device it is hooked up to. With that said if it gets warmer where you are then the rheostat does you no good at all. It will over heat and that can very well kill your animal. I am all for the set up but it does need to be done correctly and honestly the way you have it is not correct at all.
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    Re: BP cage critique

    Quote Originally Posted by T&C Exotics View Post
    There is no assuming here at all. It will happen. Also keep in mind that a rheostat does not monitor the temp at all it only controls the amount of electricity delivered to the device it is hooked up to. With that said if it gets warmer where you are then the rheostat does you no good at all. It will over heat and that can very well kill your animal. I am all for the set up but it does need to be done correctly and honestly the way you have it is not correct at all.
    What i actually have is a thermostat not a rheostat, I was mistaken before. So not only is the mat hooked up to a thermostat, but the maximum temperature that mat can achieve is 100F.
    So is 100F really that dangerous, will it burn his scales?

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    Re: BP cage critique

    It will not burn the scales but it could over heat the animal still.
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    Re: BP cage critique

    Quote Originally Posted by student117 View Post
    Assuming he burrows and gets to the mat and assuming the mat has reached its maximum temperature of 100F.
    Will that burn him?
    You asked for responses on a bad idea, you can do what you want but just keep one thing in mind with the should and could on a heat source:

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    Re: BP cage critique

    Quote Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    You asked for responses on a bad idea, you can do what you want but just keep one thing in mind with the should and could on a heat source:
    Exactly this right here. Just because something may not go wrong or should not go wrong does not mean it will not go wrong. I have in the past had issues with thermostats going out or with a probe getting moved... Either of those causes the heat tape to go up in temp which leads to cooked snake.
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