How Not To Feed Your Snake (Graphic)!

[satomi325]

Are ball pythons stupid or what? I just can't understand why the ball pythons don't fight back? Getting a bite or two OK that's normal it happens living creature does have to eat or tries to defend, but a ball python is able to kill much larger prey than they can eat.

OK they are not hungry and everything but I just can't grasp the idea the snake just watches themselves getting eaten and not killing the prey in their defense.

Yes. They aren't bright snakes. In the wild they're going to ball up or try to get away. Since the snake is trapped in a tank, it has no where to escape, so it balls up.
Their defense mechanism is to ball up, hence the name "Ball Python". They ball up in fear and defense and become the perfect sitting target.

[CloudtheBoa]

I don't feed live to snakes, so never.

The tables are turned as in the mouse ate the snake.

No need to inform me. I know what happened and why. I was commenting on the fact that everyone is upset because the snake died, which yes, us upsetting, but mice die every day to feed a pet snake somewhere.

Well, the difference in this case is that the snake is someone's pet. They have the responsibility to keep the snake safe, not the rat. If they chose to adopt it afterwards, sure, but the snake is in their care. The food chain doesn't matter here, this is neglect and abuse. Keep in mind I'm not against feeder snakes, but there's a difference between a feeder and a pet.

[MonkeyShuttle]

Ewwww!

[Awaiting Abyss]

Well, the difference in this case is that the snake is someone's pet. They have the responsibility to keep the snake safe, not the rat. If they chose to adopt it afterwards, sure, but the snake is in their care. The food chain doesn't matter here, this is neglect and abuse. Keep in mind I'm not against feeder snakes, but there's a difference between a feeder and a pet.

Its a mouse in the picture; not a rat.

I'm aware that the snake was the pet. My snake, mice, rats, gerbils, hamsters, degus, ferrets, cats, and dogs are all my family... Even the mice that I use as feeders. I also wasn't commenting on the food chain.

[fishdip]

I see nothing wrong with this picture

[Badgemash]

Why is everyone so quick to jump to the "it's fake" conclusion around here?

I agree. That image doesn't look photo shopped in the least. I don't really understand why so many people immediately jump to the, well that has to be fake, conclusion.

On the other thread, I saw signs of what looked like tampering on the second photo, however I see no signs of this one being fake. In this case people jump to that conclusion because it's less disturbing to believe that some troll would photoshop this rather than face the sad truth that a complete idiot utterly failed in their obligation to provide a safe environment for an animal in their care, and that animal died a slow and agonizing death (probably over several torturous hours) because of it.

When the last time you've seen a snake swallow a mouse or rat when they are still alive? I'm pretty sure they kill it first before they actually begin to devour the food.

My hognose does, which is why I'm trying to switch her over to f/t asap, because a) it could spell trouble when she moves past pinkie sizes and b) it's quite unpleasant to watch/hear.

[Badgemash]

I see nothing wrong with this picture

Then you are either a troll or you are in serious need of an eye exam.

From legal dictionary -
cruelty to animals n. the crime of inflicting physical pain, suffering or death on an animal, usually a tame one, beyond necessity for normal discipline. It can include neglect that is so monstrous (withholding food and water) that the animal has suffered, died or been put in imminent danger of death. (See: cruelty)

[fishdip]

On the other thread, I saw signs of what looked like tampering on the second photo, however I see no signs of this one being fake. In this case people jump to that conclusion because it's less disturbing to believe that some troll would photoshop this rather than face the sad truth that a complete idiot utterly failed in their obligation to provide a safe environment for an animal in their care, and that animal died a slow and agonizing death (probably over several torturous hours) because of it.



My hognose does, which is why I'm trying to switch her over to f/t asap, because a) it could spell trouble when she moves past pinkie sizes and b) it's quite unpleasant to watch/hear.

No life is better then the next or more important. As soon as he got the feeder it was a animal in his care also. He put the BP and the feeder in the tank for a animal to die well guess what a animal did die. All the crying about the BP dyeing is just plan ignorant if you don't like death or think the snakes life is more important then a feeders life you will be in for a surprise when your time finally comes.

[Badgemash]

No life is better then the next or more important. As soon as he got the feeder it was a animal in his care also. He put the BP and the feeder in the tank for a animal to die well guess what a animal did die. All the crying about the BP dyeing is just plan ignorant if you don't like death or think the snakes life is more important then a feeders life you will be in for a surprise when your time finally comes.

You are missing the point.* This person neglected both the snake by leaving an unsupervised live feeder in the cage, and the rodent by leaving it in a cage with no food or water. All the "crying about the BP dyeing [sic]" is because an abusive owner allowed an animal to be tortured until it died, and then proudly posted pictures of it on the internet. I would be equally upset to see a rodent treated this way, it is unacceptable regardless of the species involved.

*And just wrong in a legal sense. However in a religious or spiritual context your argument about all lives being equal may have merit.

[fishdip]

You are missing the point.* This person neglected both the snake by leaving an unsupervised live feeder in the cage, and the rodent by leaving it in a cage with no food or water. All the "crying about the BP dyeing [sic]" is because an abusive owner allowed an animal to be tortured until it died, and then proudly posted pictures of it on the internet. I would be equally upset to see a rodent treated this way, it is unacceptable regardless of the species involved.

*And just wrong in a legal sense. However in a religious or spiritual context your argument about all lives being equal may have merit.

You don't think its torture to let a animal get its breath slowly squeezed out of it? As far as food and water in less the bp had no water also I am sure the tank had water also we all know what the feeder had for food.