Crazy Albino _ 2013

[Lexcorn]

ALBINO TIGER (AKA ALBINO GENETIC BANDED).

O.K. as I'm not much for plucking a photo out of WOBP & saying "Hey Folks, I've produced one of these" without @ least providing some background information.........

Here goes.........

After many hours of studying BP photo's & with my amazing powers of deduction I conclude that the 'Crazy Albino' is, indeed, Albino Tiger (aka Albino Genetic Banded).

No, I have not jumped to conclusions - reasons as follows:-

Albino (recessive) Genetic Banded (Dominant) & a 'dead ringer' for my boy here _ http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...enetic-banded/

IF the 'Crazy Albino' is an Albino Tiger then it follows that one of the parents should, also, be an Albino Genetic Banded.

ALBINO 'Sly' x PIEBALD 'Smilie' _ 2012 pairing:



Now, IF the sire is GB then it stands to reason that he should be able to produce other progeny that present with this visual trait.

Therefore, further evidence is required..........

Lex

[Lexcorn]

Now, some of the double hetero kids from the (let's just say for now) ALBINO TIGER sire 'Sly'

double hetero Albino + Piebald Male 12166



O.K. he's a Ringer, so that may have altered the dorsal pattern.

double hetero Albino + Piebald Female 12161



double hetero Albino + Piebald Male 12163



Yeah, younger photo but you get the idea.

Now, I don't know about you, but, my idea of 'banding' is from dorsal to lateral & although these animals display a lack of 'alien eyes' & large areas of stripe rather than banding, it would appear to be a variable result so let's just say they are @ this time GB.

O.K. to further confuse y'all (& me) there is some difference between Ralph Davis interpretation of banding _ http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/co.../banded_02.jpg

World of Ball Pythons _ http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...enetic-banded/

& Ball Python Morphs Picture Gallery _ http://imageevent.com/livingartrepti...=0&w=1&s=0&z=9

Which not only states that Genetic 'Tiger' is co-dominant, but, also there is a Super form Super Genetic 'Tiger' _ http://imageevent.com/livingartrepti...=0&w=1&s=0&z=9

..........and just when we think it all makes sense........ there's BLADE (also co-dominant) _ http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/blade/



Let's say then that the 'Crazy Albino' is an ALBINO TIGER (good work there "Ladybugzcrunch") but it needed some clarification.

Let's see what 'Sly' produces for us this Season

Now, dissection begineth

Lex

[Robyn@SYR]

Neat albinos. Crazy. As they say : )

[Ladybugzcrunch]

Now, some of the double hetero kids from the (let's just say for now) ALBINO TIGER sire 'Sly'

double hetero Albino + Piebald Male 12166



O.K. he's a Ringer, so that may have altered the dorsal pattern.

double hetero Albino + Piebald Female 12161



double hetero Albino + Piebald Male 12163



Yeah, younger photo but you get the idea.

Now, I don't know about you, but, my idea of 'banding' is from dorsal to lateral & although these animals display a lack of 'alien eyes' & large areas of stripe rather than banding, it would appear to be a variable result so let's just say they are @ this time GB.

O.K. to further confuse y'all (& me) there is some difference between Ralph Davis interpretation of banding _ http://www.ralphdavisreptiles.com/co.../banded_02.jpg

World of Ball Pythons _ http://www.worldofballpythons.com/mo...enetic-banded/

& Ball Python Morphs Picture Gallery _ http://imageevent.com/livingartrepti...=0&w=1&s=0&z=9

Which not only states that Genetic 'Tiger' is co-dominant, but, also there is a Super form Super Genetic 'Tiger' _ http://imageevent.com/livingartrepti...=0&w=1&s=0&z=9

..........and just when we think it all makes sense........ there's BLADE (also co-dominant) _ http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/blade/



Let's say then that the 'Crazy Albino' is an ALBINO TIGER (good work there "Ladybugzcrunch") but it needed some clarification.

Let's see what 'Sly' produces for us this Season

Now, dissection begineth

Lex

Confirmed the sire is genetic banded, case closed, I win. NOW please send me my prize! I will take any one of those gems.

[PitOnTheProwl]

Confirmed the sire is genetic banded, case closed, I win. NOW please send me my prize! I will take any one of those gems.

Here you go..........................

[Lexcorn]

Neat albinos. Crazy. As they say : )

Thanks,

It's been an enjoyable journey, thanks to you 'guys' & those nearer to home who have assisted with responding to my thread.

There have been a few other suggestions, however, considering the progeny that have, already, been produced I do think that we have 'nailed it'

Regards. Lex

[Lexcorn]

Confirmed the sire is genetic banded, case closed, I win. NOW please send me my prize! I will take any one of those gems.

hehehe.........

Like I said, thanks to you for pointing me in the right direction

Confirmation has been provided by the fact that a duplicate animal has been produced each time with the same pairing &, also, non-albino progeny from this Sire present with GB.

Now, as for the prize - that could be a little difficult!

The interesting news is that I will see the original 2011 male next week, therefore, I shall up-date this thread with further information.

Regards. Lex

[RandyRemington]

Check out Sean's reduced clowns at Exotics by Nature:

http://www.exoticsbynature.com/colle...Pythons&id=15#

I saw a post from him a while back where I think he indicated there is a 2nd gene that makes them so reduced. Forget if he named it. Whatever it is I really like it in both of your collections.

[Lexcorn]

Check out Sean's reduced clowns at Exotics by Nature:

http://www.exoticsbynature.com/colle...Pythons&id=15#

I saw a post from him a while back where I think he indicated there is a 2nd gene that makes them so reduced. Forget if he named it. Whatever it is I really like it in both of your collections.

Hey,

Thanks for making me simply envious of the Reduced Clowns that they produce

From what I can gather they are saying it too is Genetic Banded influence; term they use is 'blade'. The Clown Super Reduced is what they believe to be the Super form of 'blade' (i.e. Super Genetic Banded).

So, that's an interesting piece of additional information that is, already, in progress with our Clown x VPI Axanthic 2014 pairing.

The Clown male is not reduced pattern, but, he is also not with a complex pattern. The VPI Axanthic has been in-line for this pairing for some years as she presents with quite an unusual pattern (possibly Banded) & although the desired result is Axanthic Clown - I hope that some of the neonates are as well marked as the Dam.

Photo's of each animal would be better posted in a new thread perhaps?

Lex

[Ladybugzcrunch]

hehehe.........

Like I said, thanks to you for pointing me in the right direction

Confirmation has been provided by the fact that a duplicate animal has been produced each time with the same pairing &, also, non-albino progeny from this Sire present with GB.

Now, as for the prize - that could be a little difficult!

The interesting news is that I will see the original 2011 male next week, therefore, I shall up-date this thread with further information.

Regards. Lex

Very true I just noticed you were in the UK lol.