Crider is a recessive gene that looks nearly identical to ultramel, and up until recently most people thought they were just two names for the same thing or two allelic but compatible genes (like coral glow/banana or butter/lesser), but it looks like they are actually not compatible with each other (like the separate axanthic lines) since a 2013 pairing (the only one I've heard of) of a visual ultramel male x het cruder female resulted in 9 eggs with zero visuals http://www.reptileradio.net/ball-pyt...tramels-3.html. Since Russo was apparently working with the Crider line, and is the one who produced the Camarillos, I would assume that this animal's ancestors came out of his stable at some point and are therefore Criders rather than Ultramels. At the very least you will want to clarify this point with the seller, especially since that is a VERY attractive price (which is what also makes me think Crider).Originally Posted by digizure
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