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    1st Hungry Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by BillinIndiana View Post
    Oh alright, been awhile. Like I said she has been fine for over a year. I got her in Sept 2012 when she was 8 weeks I think it was.
    Anyways stat is set at 87
    Like others said if she has been kept this way for over a year temps might not be an issue. I would ask though, how you are measuring your temps. Depending on your thermostat and probe placement, the actual temps your snake is feeling could be slightly different.


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    Re: 1st Hungry Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by martin82531 View Post
    Like others said if she has been kept this way for over a year temps might not be an issue. I would ask though, how you are measuring your temps. Depending on your thermostat and probe placement, the actual temps your snake is feeling could be slightly different.


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    I just have an Acu-rite thermometer from Walmart in with her. It has a probe on a wire for outdoor use. I place that on the hot side and the whole unit on the cool side.

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    Re: 1st Hungry Strike

    I keep all of my snakes at 84° average, no cool side no hotspot, but that is also in a thermostatically controlled heated room. Colder species snakes on the floor level, and ones that require higher temps on top. In a singular enclosure your temps may not be high enough ambient to allow proper digestion, and snakes that know it's too cold to digest won't eat. If your ambients are in the 70's, and your warm side is only mid-upper 80's, it may be too cold for them.


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    Re: 1st Hungry Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by BillinIndiana View Post
    I just read that BP's will refuse to eat during breeding season. The article said November or colder months is breeding time. She ( if she is a she? I've never had her probed or sexed) is about 17 months old, is this about the age they start to go in heat?
    That's a possibility. In the wild, breeding season is triggered by climate to a large degree. Another consideration is her age and weight. If you haven't weighed her, I'm willing to bet she's right around 1000 grams at that age. There's a pretty well documented tendency to go off feed around that size. I wouldn't start sweating a fast just yet. Keep temps/humidity stable and correct, and keep offering food at regular intervals. Eventually she'll take it.

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    Re: 1st Hungry Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by patientz3ro View Post
    That's a possibility. In the wild, breeding season is triggered by climate to a large degree. Another consideration is her age and weight. If you haven't weighed her, I'm willing to bet she's right around 1000 grams at that age. There's a pretty well documented tendency to go off feed around that size. I wouldn't start sweating a fast just yet. Keep temps/humidity stable and correct, and keep offering food at regular intervals. Eventually she'll take it.

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    Tried again today and she refused. That makes 5 straight weeks. She is weighing in at 996 grams though. Her eyes and nostrils(?) mouth etc. look nice and clear. I mean she doesn't look bad, but she is showing a little looser skin. She was really plump so I'm sure she has loss some weight. I still see her drinking now and then which is good I'm sure.
    I'll keep trying next week.

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    Re: 1st Hungry Strike

    Mine did his first hunger strike, its been 3 months now, he hasn't showed any signs of weight loss. Checked all the usual, I had him for seven years and this is his first strike.

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    Re: 1st Hungry Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by BillinIndiana View Post
    Tried again today and she refused. That makes 5 straight weeks. She is weighing in at 996 grams though. Her eyes and nostrils(?) mouth etc. look nice and clear. I mean she doesn't look bad, but she is showing a little looser skin. She was really plump so I'm sure she has loss some weight. I still see her drinking now and then which is good I'm sure.
    I'll keep trying next week.
    Try a live rat (I think I saw that you do FT....if not, ignore this).

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    She ate some time last night. I have been using a separate tub to feed her, but all of a sudden this wasn't working. I know there are mixed opinions on using a feeding tub, but I use cypress mulch for bedding and have always been afraid of her accidentally ingesting wood chips.
    Anyways I left the thawed and warmed rat in her every day tank all night and she eventually ate it. She must have gotten tired of crawling over it? LOL

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    Re: 1st Hungry Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by Expensive hobby View Post
    I keep all of my snakes at 84° average, no cool side no hotspot, but that is also in a thermostatically controlled heated room. Colder species snakes on the floor level, and ones that require higher temps on top. In a singular enclosure your temps may not be high enough ambient to allow proper digestion, and snakes that know it's too cold to digest won't eat. If your ambients are in the 70's, and your warm side is only mid-upper 80's, it may be too cold for them.


    I like my Dubstep to go Wop Wop Wop Wop
    I can't remember where I saw it, but I read something about a "greenhouse effect" when there's no thermal gradient. Supposedly it's unhealthy, but I can't remember specifics. Have you heard anything to that effect, or had any issues?

    I'm assuming you haven't had issues or you wouldn't do it, but I'm curious.

    Quote Originally Posted by BillinIndiana View Post
    She ate some time last night. I have been using a separate tub to feed her, but all of a sudden this wasn't working. I know there are mixed opinions on using a feeding tub, but I use cypress mulch for bedding and have always been afraid of her accidentally ingesting wood chips.
    Anyways I left the thawed and warmed rat in her every day tank all night and she eventually ate it. She must have gotten tired of crawling over it? LOL
    Glad she's eating, but if you're concerned about her investing cypress, put the prey on a paper plate.

    Personally though, I've always used cypress, and never had major issues. I've had to take substrate out of hee mouth before she swallowed it, but she's so laid back... I can put my mouse smelling hands in her tank whenever. Never been nipped. Your snake could be different though.

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    Re: 1st Hungry Strike

    Quote Originally Posted by patientz3ro View Post
    I can't remember where I saw it, but I read something about a "greenhouse effect" when there's no thermal gradient. Supposedly it's unhealthy, but I can't remember specifics. Have you heard anything to that effect, or had any issues?

    I'm assuming you haven't had issues or you wouldn't do it, but I'm curious.





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    I believe Jeff from Boaphile Plastics does room heat with no supplemental heat. He seems to be doing pretty well. I know of a few others as well.

    Snakes are eating, shedding, defecating, producing urates, shedding, good body tone, strong and growing very fast. Everyone seems "happy."

    The whole room is sealed and insulated


    I like my Dubstep to go Wop Wop Wop Wop
    Ball pythons:
    -0.1 Normal (Lilith)
    -1.0 Dark Normal
    -0.1 Light Normal
    -0.1 Pastel
    -1.0 Lesser

    Retics:
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    -1.1 Fire Tiger Het Albino
    -1.0 Purple Sunfire
    -1.0 Tiger
    -0.1 Lavender Tiger
    -1.0 Motley Het Purple

    Boas:
    -0.1 Hypo BCI
    -1.0 Hypo BCI (Hades)
    -1.0 EBV Red Group Hypo Pastel BCI (Ares)
    -0.1 Normal BCI (Isis)
    -0.1 Anery BCI (Medusa)
    -0.1 Normal BCI (Hera)
    -0.1 Normal BCI (Athena)

    Blood Pythons:
    -1.1 VPI Super Stripe Mead Line Borneo Ultra Breit

    Epicrates Striatus Striatus
    -1.1 Dominican Red Mountain Boa

    Burmese Pythons:
    -1.1 Albino Burmese

    Anacondas:
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