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12-21-2013, 07:53 PM
#201
Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
 Originally Posted by GeekAndDestroy
I find it interesting that people would go to their vet for food recommendations. I've found that a reputable independent pet shop owner will be far more knowledgeable and less biased about foods than a vet.
Thank you! Ive gotten lots of training on dog n cat nutrition and different brands. 
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12-22-2013, 12:17 AM
#202
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Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
 Originally Posted by GeekAndDestroy
I find it interesting that people would go to their vet for food recommendations. I've found that a reputable independent pet shop owner will be far more knowledgeable and less biased about foods than a vet.
i tried feeding my boys raw, but Foster, my ACD, went from 45lbs to 37lbs. I would have had to double or triple his intake to keep his weight up, which would have been ridiculously expensive. I now have him on Taste of the Wild boar formula. After many trials and tribulations, I found he was allergic to both grains and poultry. He needed a high protein diet to keep the weight up and keep up with his high energy demands. Luckily, his little brother does well on anything, so I didn't have to find different food types.
And how much school do "independent pet shop" owners go through? And how much experience do they have in animal medicine?
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12-22-2013, 01:04 AM
#203
Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
They might have none, but know that science diet is (curse) word
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0.1 Dog (Truffles)
0.1 Naked Cat (Mercedes)
1.0 Hamster (Pumpkin)
1.1 Bumblebees (Satyana & Weedle)
0.3 Normals (Shayla, Rita and Althea)
0.1 100% Het Pied Ringer (Avalon)
1.0 Pied (Monsieur Piederoff)
1.0 Lesser 100% Het Albino poss het OG (Tinersons)
0.1 Spider Albino (Ivy)
0.1 Mojave Cinnamon (Morticia)
1.1 Normal BCIs (Damon and Conga)
0.1 Crested Gecko (Natasha)
0.0.1 Rosehair Tarantula (Charlotte)
0.0.1 P.Metallica
0.0.1 A.Avicularia
0.0.2 P.Irminia
0.0.1 L.Parahybona
0.0.1 N.Coloratovillosus
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12-22-2013, 01:11 AM
#204
Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
I would just like to add that vets are not the end all be all of animal knowledge. Just like you family practice medicine doctor knows a lot about a lot of things having to do with the human body, dietitians and nutritionalists know more about diet and nutrition; it's what they specialize in.
I like my Dubstep to go Wop Wop Wop Wop
Ball pythons:
-0.1 Normal (Lilith)
-1.0 Dark Normal
-0.1 Light Normal
-0.1 Pastel
-1.0 Lesser
Retics:
-0.1 Platinum
-1.1 Fire Tiger Het Albino
-1.0 Purple Sunfire
-1.0 Tiger
-0.1 Lavender Tiger
-1.0 Motley Het Purple
Boas:
-0.1 Hypo BCI
-1.0 Hypo BCI (Hades)
-1.0 EBV Red Group Hypo Pastel BCI (Ares)
-0.1 Normal BCI (Isis)
-0.1 Anery BCI (Medusa)
-0.1 Normal BCI (Hera)
-0.1 Normal BCI (Athena)
Blood Pythons:
-1.1 VPI Super Stripe Mead Line Borneo Ultra Breit
Epicrates Striatus Striatus
-1.1 Dominican Red Mountain Boa
Burmese Pythons:
-1.1 Albino Burmese
Anacondas:
-0.2 Yellow Anaconda
-1.0 Yellow Anaconda
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12-22-2013, 01:12 AM
#205
Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
 Originally Posted by Jackie
And how much school do "independent pet shop" owners go through? And how much experience do they have in animal medicine?
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Vets are taught their nutrition classes sponsored by Sciet Diet... go ask a holistic vet what to feed... it won't be that crap
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12-22-2013, 01:28 AM
#206
Honestly, not that many general practice companion animal vets are very knowledgeable about nutrition. So unless they do their own research or is a specialist, they aren't taught in depth about animal nutrition. They get a general 101 class because they aren't planning to become specific nutritionists. And it's not crazy to think that vets are biased towards mainstream pet food companies like Purina, Eukanuba, Iams, SD, etc etc when many of these big food companies are the ones giving seminars.
The only experts are board-certified veterinary nutritionists, which most vets are not. And these veterinary nutritionists have substantial training in the subject. It's just like how your general physician is probably not specialized or very knowledgeable in human nutrition other than what they learned in a generalist course in school. They still refer you to a specialized nutritionist if you have questions about diet or nutrition. (EDIT: Expensive Hobby beat me on this)
It's like finding a knowledgeable reptile vet. Many general practice companion animal vets will get a quick general course about exotics and reptiles. But they don't know anything in depth unless they do their own research or further training. I was once staying out of the area for the weekend. A friend of the friend I was staying with brought me a sick ball python. It had advanced RI. I called up a local vet to see if they saw reptiles(I heard great things about this guy from others who have taken their dogs and cats to). They said yes, they see reptiles all the time. When I got there, the vet said the snake indeed had RI and some UV light would fix him right up. I just nodded my head, paid the bill, and immediately left. I ended up taking the snake to my regular specialized exotics vet at our vet school several hours away.
So, moral of the story, just because someone is a vet doesn't mean they are knowledgeable in certain subjects.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-vet. I love and adore many veterinarians. I've worked along side with some amazing vets. However, just be aware that not all vets stand equal in practice and in knowledge. Doing your own homework can go a long way as well.
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12-22-2013, 01:57 AM
#207
Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
 Originally Posted by Jackie
And how much school do "independent pet shop" owners go through? And how much experience do they have in animal medicine?
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They actually have kept most animals they sell and 9 out of 10 times have taken an animal to the vet for just about every reason.
Yeah, you SHOULD get a culture of an RI but they'll still probably prescribe baytril in the end. So, kind of a one shoe fits all. There is really, typically, one way to do something right and these people generally know it. The good ones anyway.
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12-22-2013, 01:59 AM
#208
Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
 Originally Posted by satomi325
Honestly, not that many general practice companion animal vets are very knowledgeable about nutrition. So unless they do their own research or is a specialist, they aren't taught in depth about animal nutrition. They get a general 101 class because they aren't planning to become specific nutritionists. And it's not crazy to think that vets are biased towards mainstream pet food companies like Purina, Eukanuba, Iams, SD, etc etc when many of these big food companies are the ones giving seminars.
The only experts are board-certified veterinary nutritionists, which most vets are not. And these veterinary nutritionists have substantial training in the subject. It's just like how your general physician is probably not specialized or very knowledgeable in human nutrition other than what they learned in a generalist course in school. They still refer you to a specialized nutritionist if you have questions about diet or nutrition. (EDIT: Expensive Hobby beat me on this)
It's like finding a knowledgeable reptile vet. Many general practice companion animal vets will get a quick general course about exotics and reptiles. But they don't know anything in depth unless they do their own research or further training. I was once staying out of the area for the weekend. A friend of the friend I was staying with brought me a sick ball python. It had advanced RI. I called up a local vet to see if they saw reptiles(I heard great things about this guy from others who have taken their dogs and cats to). They said yes, they see reptiles all the time. When I got there, the vet said the snake indeed had RI and some UV light would fix him right up. I just nodded my head, paid the bill, and immediately left. I ended up taking the snake to my regular specialized exotics vet at our vet school several hours away.
So, moral of the story, just because someone is a vet doesn't mean they are knowledgeable in certain subjects.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not anti-vet. I love and adore many veterinarians. I've worked along side with some amazing vets. However, just be aware that not all vets stand equal in practice and in knowledge. Doing your own homework can go a long way as well.
UV light huh? Gonna have to try that one. Fixes them right up? Awesome! Now was it UV-A or UV-B? THAT is the real question at hand lol.
Beardies and turtles move aside, I've got a sick snake to operate on! HE NEEDS YOUR LIGHT!
I like my Dubstep to go Wop Wop Wop Wop
Ball pythons:
-0.1 Normal (Lilith)
-1.0 Dark Normal
-0.1 Light Normal
-0.1 Pastel
-1.0 Lesser
Retics:
-0.1 Platinum
-1.1 Fire Tiger Het Albino
-1.0 Purple Sunfire
-1.0 Tiger
-0.1 Lavender Tiger
-1.0 Motley Het Purple
Boas:
-0.1 Hypo BCI
-1.0 Hypo BCI (Hades)
-1.0 EBV Red Group Hypo Pastel BCI (Ares)
-0.1 Normal BCI (Isis)
-0.1 Anery BCI (Medusa)
-0.1 Normal BCI (Hera)
-0.1 Normal BCI (Athena)
Blood Pythons:
-1.1 VPI Super Stripe Mead Line Borneo Ultra Breit
Epicrates Striatus Striatus
-1.1 Dominican Red Mountain Boa
Burmese Pythons:
-1.1 Albino Burmese
Anacondas:
-0.2 Yellow Anaconda
-1.0 Yellow Anaconda
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12-22-2013, 09:27 AM
#209
Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
 Originally Posted by Expensive hobby
UV light huh? Gonna have to try that one. Fixes them right up? Awesome! Now was it UV-A or UV-B? THAT is the real question at hand lol.
Beardies and turtles move aside, I've got a sick snake to operate on! HE NEEDS YOUR LIGHT!
I like my Dubstep to go Wop Wop Wop Wop
The only "knowledgable" reptile vet in my area told me my boa needed a UV lamp...
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0.1 Dog (Truffles)
0.1 Naked Cat (Mercedes)
1.0 Hamster (Pumpkin)
1.1 Bumblebees (Satyana & Weedle)
0.3 Normals (Shayla, Rita and Althea)
0.1 100% Het Pied Ringer (Avalon)
1.0 Pied (Monsieur Piederoff)
1.0 Lesser 100% Het Albino poss het OG (Tinersons)
0.1 Spider Albino (Ivy)
0.1 Mojave Cinnamon (Morticia)
1.1 Normal BCIs (Damon and Conga)
0.1 Crested Gecko (Natasha)
0.0.1 Rosehair Tarantula (Charlotte)
0.0.1 P.Metallica
0.0.1 A.Avicularia
0.0.2 P.Irminia
0.0.1 L.Parahybona
0.0.1 N.Coloratovillosus
?.?.? ASFs 
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12-22-2013, 12:19 PM
#210
Re: Fellow dog owners - what food do you feed?
I feed my cat PMR diet aka frankenprey. Not a doggie but I would do the same if I had one
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