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    OK my hubby and I hold an FFL and mine works as a gunsmith and custom manufacturer, so here is my take:

    Your hubby is going to want to move the gun safe out of the herp room as the humidity level required for healthy ball pythons is not healthy for firearms (think rust), unless he's coating them heavily with oil or cosmoline after every use, and that gets nasty to clean. Also the cleaning solvents for carbon and copper buildup, and the oils used to lubricate firearms do offgas over time, which is probably not something you want in the herp room either.

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    Re: Why is this a bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    OK my hubby and I hold an FFL and mine works as a gunsmith and custom manufacturer, so here is my take:

    Your hubby is going to want to move the gun safe out of the herp room as the humidity level required for healthy ball pythons is not healthy for firearms (think rust), unless he's coating them heavily with oil or cosmoline after every use, and that gets nasty to clean. Also the cleaning solvents for carbon and copper buildup, and the oils used to lubricate firearms do offgas over time, which is probably not something you want in the herp room either.
    Rust is exactly what he's worried about, but I hadn't thought about the solvent off gassing issue (he seems to enjoy taking them apart and has several bottles of various liquids, which I assume are those things), it looks like I'll be re-arranging furniture and closets tonight.
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    Re: Why is this a bad idea?

    I love the smell of Hoppe's. It always make me think of my Grandpa. But I wouldn't use it in the same room as my snakes. Hopefully you can get everything in a good place.
    If nothing ever changed, there would be no butterflies.

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    Re: Why is this a bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Badgemash View Post
    Rust is exactly what he's worried about, but I hadn't thought about the solvent off gassing issue (he seems to enjoy taking them apart and has several bottles of various liquids, which I assume are those things), it looks like I'll be re-arranging furniture and closets tonight.
    Well, since you ARE in Phoenix, you could just take all the guns over to Robar and have them NP3 plated, then apply a coat of Rogard on top. Then you can just trash all the lubricants and the really harsh solvents!

    As an added bonus, doing both finishes gives your guns a sexy "tuxedo" look!

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    Re: Why is this a bad idea?

    I just sprinkle some H2O on the substrate over the UTH and the humidity will rise. Although I do have hygrometers in every bin so as to monitor them closely. It works well for those who are going into shed.
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    Re: Why is this a bad idea?

    Room humidifiers or even a DIY reptifogger might be a cost effective solution. Hardware stores around here carry personal ultrasonic humidifiers for around $20. Although with your substrate a normal room humidifier might be a better choice(not entirely sure the fogger mist wouldn't saturate your liners).

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    One thing I over looked earlier...the Reptizorb liners.

    I'm thinking if you simply changed to paper towels your humidity issues may resolve themselves.

    Sure, it's not as thick/absorbent, but messed get cleaned up right away anyways so I'm not sure how good of a trade off the extra absorbancy is, for humidity issues.

    You can see everything on paper towels too, and paper towels are a helluva lot cheaper than the liners. Plus no shipping fees.

    Edit - I know you said you didn't want to change substrates, so this is just a thought. The only thing paper towels don't have is the extra absorbancy, which seems to hinder instead of help your case. Might be different once you get the guns out of there, though.
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    Re: Why is this a bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by patientz3ro View Post
    Well, since you ARE in Phoenix, you could just take all the guns over to Robar and have them NP3 plated, then apply a coat of Rogard on top. Then you can just trash all the lubricants and the really harsh solvents!

    As an added bonus, doing both finishes gives your guns a sexy "tuxedo" look!

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    I'll be honest, I have no idea what any of this means. I can safely clear and load my guns (which is my Benelli 99.99% of the time) and then I hand them to hubby and he does the taking apart and cleaning and chemical-ing. Most of my efforts go toward trying to remember which variant of what he's currently into and secretly ordering it at Cabela's (for Christams or his birthday or whatnot).

    ETA: actual cleaning always takes place on the dining room table, never the actual snake room. They were just put back in their cases after and then stored in the closet in that room.
    Last edited by Badgemash; 12-21-2013 at 02:33 AM.
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    Re: Why is this a bad idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by DooLittle View Post
    I love the smell of Hoppe's. It always make me think of my Grandpa. But I wouldn't use it in the same room as my snakes. Hopefully you can get everything in a good place.
    Working on it, my back is killing me tonight!

    Quote Originally Posted by Raven01 View Post
    Room humidifiers or even a DIY reptifogger might be a cost effective solution. Hardware stores around here carry personal ultrasonic humidifiers for around $20. Although with your substrate a normal room humidifier might be a better choice(not entirely sure the fogger mist wouldn't saturate your liners).
    I discovered today that foggers do that yes , so I will be trying the humidifier next.

    Quote Originally Posted by SquamishSerpents View Post
    One thing I over looked earlier...the Reptizorb liners.

    I'm thinking if you simply changed to paper towels your humidity issues may resolve themselves.

    Sure, it's not as thick/absorbent, but messed get cleaned up right away anyways so I'm not sure how good of a trade off the extra absorbancy is, for humidity issues.

    You can see everything on paper towels too, and paper towels are a helluva lot cheaper than the liners. Plus no shipping fees.

    Edit - I know you said you didn't want to change substrates, so this is just a thought. The only thing paper towels don't have is the extra absorbancy, which seems to hinder instead of help your case. Might be different once you get the guns out of there, though.
    I think I'm going to try the paper towels, it's worth a shot right? And it would be nice to not have to wait for them to fix their site so I can actually order the things and then wait three days for them to show up (and then wait an extra day because they apparently require a signature now).

    Moving the guns has turned into house cleaning and re-arranging of epic porportions, but the guns (and the unused reloading gear, and the ammo, and all of the 976 other accessories) now have a whole new storage arrangement (lol, hubby is out of town and has no idea what I'm doing, this could get fun ), and everything in that room that's not a snake, rack, or ASF tub is now tidily stored in a plastic tub with a bag of dessicant and stacked in the closet. A) I'm really proud of myself as I am not known for being neat, tidy, or organized in any way (although some other rooms now look like they've been bombed) and B) I will be hooking up a new room humidifier tomorrow.
    -Devon

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