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    Way to go, you did it!

    Honestly it's not as bad I had was picturing in my head. I would just follow what JLC said.
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    Re: Bad Choice...

    Haha thanks! And okay, I will do that. Thank you guys so much!! Any idea of how long it will take for them to clear up?

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    For any medical thing, I always want to stress: VET! Best thing you can do as step 1 for a sick snake is call the vet.

    For the mites, I personally used olive oil over mineral oil as recommended by the vet at teh time. Was recommended as healthier with same effects and easier to clean up. That said, nothing wrong with mineral oil to the best of my knowledge (and I don't know everything). The betadine bath is good, but can be over done in a way, so I reserve that for minimal use, if at all, varying on the situations. It's been years and I haven't had mites, scale rot, or any other reason to do these things, so my only thought is use betadine sparingly and try a different oil. Also, have you used the Provent-A-Mite product before instead of all-natural products?

    For the scales: If I am reading this right, I had something like this happen a long time ago for some boas. Different reasoning and situation, but the thing to note is keep them and their enclosure CLEAN. Use real bedding, not newspaper, and spot clean well. If a big poo or pee happens, the newspaper may not absorb it all and their sensitive scales are then laying in it... But also bedding can keep stuff around if poor spot cleaning, so do that well. I used newpaper when mine had the problem and the vet scolded me, but that said the newspaper worked and I didn't have the problems I was warned about. Keep the humidity where it needs to be, not too low and not a puddle for a cage; This is important because some places (i.e. where I am) are dry in winter and the humidity is hard to get exact. The skin and scales can get too dry and be uncomfortable for the snake, and too wet can lead to other problems. Since they are stressed from this, also good temps all around just like if treating other illnesses. Minimal handling until they are better. Minimal other stresses as you don't want them rubbing too much nor stressing in general. Do not over do bathing (call a vet for recommendation on the amount) and don't over do the betadine baths either.

    I have more, but not knowing your exacts compared to what I had happen, I cannot easily put the rest. Instead I will say again: Vet. Mine was a situation where a vet was 100% needed. Yours may not be, but you don't know until the vet sees what's up.

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    So as i typed last response, you posted the pics. You are no where near what I had going on, so you probably are good following JLCs recommendations. If they are acting funky, definitely pursue a vet, but otherwise just take good care of him.
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    Re: Bad Choice...

    Okay, perhaps I over-exaggerated, I've just never had this happen to any of my babies..scared me! Ok so best thing to do is just let them be and keep them clean? I have them on paper towel and a damp towel in there..temps are good, they're acting fine..no more betadine baths! Good news is, mites are gone (hopefully no eggs left over..), it's just the scale problem now. Again, never happened before, and I've used the exact same oil...I can't believe it I just feel bad that they're uncomfortable..

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    Re: Bad Choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by habbott View Post
    I've used the exact same oil...I can't believe it I just feel bad that they're uncomfortable..
    did you leave the oil on or wash it off?
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    Re: Bad Choice...

    I washed it off! Although, that being said, it tends to take a couple good washes to get it completely off..

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    The damage is done at this point, and really all you can do is continue with paper towels, proper heat and humidity, and keeping the cage clean. I wouldn't bother bathing them, as it stresses them out and when it is time for them to shed, it will actually make the shed go worse because it pulls the natural oils out of the skin.

    It will probably continue until the next shed. I had a rescue come in that the previous owner had tried using mineral oil in the same way. I don't know how long they let it sit, but said they washed it off afterward. Poor Brutus was all flakey like yours for about 3 weeks, but once he shed, it cleared up completely.
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    Re: Bad Choice...

    Quote Originally Posted by KMG View Post
    Way to go, you did it!

    Honestly it's not as bad I had was picturing in my head. I would just follow what JLC said.
    I'm with you on that, I was picturing awful things.

    I've never been in this situation, but I'm thinking keeping them dry (no baths or misting) for a little while might do them some good. One or two layers of stuck shed will not hurt them, so don't stress about that. You can order PAM online and/or buy some Reptile Spray/Relief from a pet store. I keep both on hand at all times.

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    Oil is not good for their scales. It softens them and if used excessively will make the scales flake off, which looks like it's happening here.

    Just get a Mite treatment spray and treat the enclosures and/or animals. All will be well.

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