Hey,everyone is entitled to there own opinion. Most I'll say is I'm 5'8" 210 and my boy is 6'1" and 280, at the black N blue bowl of hardcore this past May, I jumped in the Pitt which I rarely do any more,ever !I remember MadBall was playing. My boy on accident back fisted me in the nose,I thought it broke,was dripping blood,took my shirt off,held my nose,it stopped bleeding after so many minutes,bout a new shirt and jumped right back in,I just was feeling pumped..I can give shots,so I have no problem taking them..and have many times..oh well I love everything about the hardcore scene,the music ,the ppl,the pits..I have nothing to complain about,but what I'll say is these shows aren't for the weak..be prepared toget knocked around,kicked down whatever,it's part of the scene...