After 65 Days I Thought They Were Dead - Candled Opaque

[piedplus]

Any updates? Im looking forward to see how this turns out. So many conflicting theories on maternal incubation....

They're still in the incubator. I check on them every day. I think the reason they're taking so long is because I had the hot spot a little too low while they were maternally incubating. The mother did a fine job, and probably would have finished the job if I hadn't interfered. I just don't know why the eggs candled opaque. Could be the humidity was too low. My first MI clutch was perfect and I had the hot spot a little warmer with the humidity a little higher. Live & learn.

[V2 HeX]

Oh ok then. Yeah i would assume you would need to drasticly ramp up the Heat and humidity for MI. Still debating on which method i want to use for my first season. Will probably go incubator just for the amount of control i have that way. Though MI interests me as well. All in all, well done on having 2 eventful MI clutchs. Looking forward to some updates

[Sama]

We maternally incubate and our last clutch had some odd timing. Half the eggs where layed on the heat tape and hatched about day 56 and the other have was right next to them but off the heat tape and hatched about day 63. Of the 6 clutches we have had we maternally incubated all and so far that was the only odd one.

[piedplus]

Oh ok then. Yeah i would assume you would need to drasticly ramp up the Heat and humidity for MI. Still debating on which method i want to use for my first season. Will probably go incubator just for the amount of control i have that way. Though MI interests me as well. All in all, well done on having 2 eventful MI clutchs. Looking forward to some updates

Heat and humidity don't need to be drasticaly high, just a little. About 75% to 85% on the humidity, and the hot spot no cooler than 90 degrees. That's just s little higher than normal for me. Good luck to you either way you go.

[piedplus]

We maternally incubate and our last clutch had some odd timing. Half the eggs where layed on the heat tape and hatched about day 56 and the other have was right next to them but off the heat tape and hatched about day 63. Of the 6 clutches we have had we maternally incubated all and so far that was the only odd one.

Wow, seven days apart, interesting. Well, I'm on day 71 for these two eggs. Wish they would come out! At least I've seen some white in the eggs, so they're both at least Pieds. They might be Pumpkin Pieds.

[anatess]

I successfully almost-maternally incubated my one and only clutch. Almost because at day 65, the mother decided to leave the clutch! So, I moved them all to the standby incubator and they pipped at day 70. I did not change any of the temp settings in the enclosure except that I bumped up humidity to 75-80% the same way I do when the snakes are in shed. The mother laid 5 eggs, 1 was a rotten egg which the mom kicked out of her clutch on day 1, and 1 choked on his umbilical so he didn't crawl out of the egg. I was not knowledgeable enough to recognize the umbilitical situation and try to save the baby.

I'll be maternally incubating if I ever go through it again (I can't house more than 2 additions so I have to go look for possible homes for the babies before I even contemplate breeding again). I like the idea that I don't have to be exact on everything as the mom has the ability to compensate for my errors. When we did it before, the mother never lost much weight because she continued to eat weekly while coiled around her clutch. So, we didn't see any untoward stress to the mom. It was a great experience.

[piedplus]

I successfully almost-maternally incubated my one and only clutch. Almost because at day 65, the mother decided to leave the clutch! So, I moved them all to the standby incubator and they pipped at day 70. I did not change any of the temp settings in the enclosure except that I bumped up humidity to 75-80% the same way I do when the snakes are in shed. The mother laid 5 eggs, 1 was a rotten egg which the mom kicked out of her clutch on day 1, and 1 choked on his umbilical so he didn't crawl out of the egg. I was not knowledgeable enough to recognize the umbilitical situation and try to save the baby.

I'll be maternally incubating if I ever go through it again (I can't house more than 2 additions so I have to go look for possible homes for the babies before I even contemplate breeding again). I like the idea that I don't have to be exact on everything as the mom has the ability to compensate for my errors. When we did it before, the mother never lost much weight because she continued to eat weekly while coiled around her clutch. So, we didn't see any untoward stress to the mom. It was a great experience.

Nice to hear MI success stories. If these two don't make it, it will not be the fault of MI. I let the humidity get too low. Then I mistakenly thought they were dead & took them away from the mother. Wish I had just brought up the humidity. I had no trouble at all with my first two MI clutches. It was only the change in weather that led me to make a mistake.

[rafacacho]

Any updates?

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[Southern_Breeder]

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[piedplus]

They both seem in good shape! First baby came out of the egg yesterday after 72 days. It was 78 grams and seems healthy. Number two is sticking her head out and should come out any day. I think the turning point came when I started misting them. That softened up the eggs and I think was a signal for them to come out. In the future I'll know to be more careful about humidity when the heater starts kicking on. Thanks for all the support and good ideas!