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Re: What's the Point of Having a Bunch of Pythons?
Unless your breeding I don't see much of a point...funny thing I was talking to my partner about this yesterday about this..I just my first two and that's good enough..I give them there own time but also take them out each about 3 times a week and let them slither round my apt,under my supervision ofcourse and I keep them in tanks where they can hunt and explore,if they choose etc...not in these racks that are just cruel,IMO,you can't enjoy them as pets. They just sit there,get fed and that's that. Like I said if you breed and have racks I get it,if not I don't. My partner at work actually said unless breeding it's not fair keeping them in racks,alot of people feel this way,but most are scared to say anything.
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Re: What's the Point of Having a Bunch of Pythons?
 Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899
racks that are just cruel
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Re: What's the Point of Having a Bunch of Pythons?
 Originally Posted by satomi325
We are all entitled to our opinions,right?? That's my opinion,I respect your knowledge,so I'll refrain from being harsh wth you,just cause....but just this one time,next time not so
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Re: What's the Point of Having a Bunch of Pythons?
 Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899
We are all entitled to our opinions,right?? That's my opinion,I respect your knowledge,so I'll refrain from being harsh wth you,just cause....but just this one time,next time not so 
Of course we are entitled to our own opinions. I vastly disagree based on Python regius' natural history. Thanks.
Lol. But really, feel free. No need to baby me. I'm a big girl and can handle your honest words. 
And I'm not saying racks are better than tanks. Only that I disagree that racks are 'cruel'.
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Re: What's the Point of Having a Bunch of Pythons?
 Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899
Unless your breeding I don't see much of a point...funny thing I was talking to my partner about this yesterday about this..I just my first two and that's good enough..I give them there own time but also take them out each about 3 times a week and let them slither round my apt,under my supervision ofcourse and I keep them in tanks where they can hunt and explore,if they choose etc...not in these racks that are just cruel,IMO,you can't enjoy them as pets. They just sit there,get fed and that's that. Like I said if you breed and have racks I get it,if not I don't. My partner at work actually said unless breeding it's not fair keeping them in racks,alot of people feel this way,but most are scared to say anything.
Your opinion would be wrong, in all reality. It's not cruel. At all. Go out in the wild, they hovel up in a hole all day and then come our to hunt at night (not getting regular meals, so stop doing that. Like seriously, one meal every three weeks or so in the wild works so why not captivity) and then hovel back up and wait for the next night.
In a rack system we give them coverage on three sides, a hide (sometimes the three covered sides are enough) and a water bowl. A regular feeding schedule gives them the ideal life.
In other words, your tank is a detriment. Bad, fluctuating humidity. In consistent, and random heat spots. Dirt/coco husk. Sounds like you're abusing them to me.
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Re: What's the Point of Having a Bunch of Pythons?
 Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899
We are all entitled to our opinions,right?? That's my opinion,I respect your knowledge,so I'll refrain from being harsh wth you,just cause....but just this one time,next time not so 
We are? When I told you that I disagreed with something you said the other day you acted like a total douchebag about it.
Moving on....your "point" is a little contradictory. Keeping snakes in racks is either cruel or it's not cruel. You are either saying that cruelty is ok as long as they are breeding stock and not pets, or you're saying that it isn't really cruel you just like to hear the click of your keys and you couldn't think of anything to type so you decided to say something nonsensical and inflammatory, as usual.
Which is it?
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What's the Point of Having a Bunch of Pythons?
 Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899
Unless your breeding I don't see much of a point...funny thing I was talking to my partner about this yesterday about this..I just my first two and that's good enough..I give them there own time but also take them out each about 3 times a week and let them slither round my apt,under my supervision ofcourse and I keep them in tanks where they can hunt and explore,if they choose etc...not in these racks that are just cruel,IMO,you can't enjoy them as pets. They just sit there,get fed and that's that. Like I said if you breed and have racks I get it,if not I don't. My partner at work actually said unless breeding it's not fair keeping them in racks,alot of people feel this way,but most are scared to say anything.
I'm not trying to be rude, but I don't think i'd formulate such strong opinions with as little experience as you have.
You keep your snakes in fish tanks? Does this mean you'd keep fish in snake racks?
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Re: What's the Point of Having a Bunch of Pythons?
 Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899
Unless your breeding I don't see much of a point...funny thing I was talking to my partner about this yesterday about this..I just my first two and that's good enough..I give them there own time but also take them out each about 3 times a week and let them slither round my apt,under my supervision ofcourse and I keep them in tanks where they can hunt and explore,if they choose etc...not in these racks that are just cruel,IMO,you can't enjoy them as pets. They just sit there,get fed and that's that. Like I said if you breed and have racks I get it,if not I don't. My partner at work actually said unless breeding it's not fair keeping them in racks,alot of people feel this way,but most are scared to say anything.
 Originally Posted by satomi325
Of course we are entitled to our own opinions. I vastly disagree based on Python regius' natural history. Thanks.
Lol. But really, feel free. No need to baby me. I'm a big girl and can handle your honest words.
And I'm not saying racks are better than tanks. Only that I disagree that racks are 'cruel'.

Lol, in all seriousness. It is rather obvious that Python regius fairs very well in racks and aquariums a like...hell my snake room is a mixture of tubs, racks, glass tanks, and cages me and my grandfather have built. Honestly, if I was not looking at breeding retics...I would probably be looking at moving to 100% racks, something that I will be doing with my 100% terrestrial pythons and sand boa.
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Re: What's the Point of Having a Bunch of Pythons?
 Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899
Unless your breeding I don't see much of a point...funny thing I was talking to my partner about this yesterday about this..I just my first two and that's good enough..I give them there own time but also take them out each about 3 times a week and let them slither round my apt,under my supervision ofcourse and I keep them in tanks where they can hunt and explore,if they choose etc...not in these racks that are just cruel,IMO,you can't enjoy them as pets. They just sit there,get fed and that's that. Like I said if you breed and have racks I get it,if not I don't. My partner at work actually said unless breeding it's not fair keeping them in racks,alot of people feel this way,but most are scared to say anything.
Racks are cruel? Have you ever seen ball python habitats in the wild? I doubt it. These animals spend 90% percent of their life in a burrow. You really need to educate yourself before you allow your inexperience to start knocking people. Tanks were made for fish in case you didnt realize that.
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Re: What's the Point of Having a Bunch of Pythons?
 Originally Posted by NYHC4LIFE8899
not in these racks that are just cruel

I personally don't give a damn about racks vs tanks but instead, I care about keeping the animal healthy. And that usually isn't in tanks. Custom cages made of plywood/melamine and tubs usually do the trick, keeping the environment insulated and humid. (Racks/tubs aren't as enjoyable imo, buuut they work for other people and I certainly would use them if I ever breed)
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