Citrus Killer Bee x pastel Enchi

[TheSnakeEye]

you will get a mix.

50% of the offspring will get one copy of pastel; these will all have the citrus pastel.

50% will be super pastels, and these will all be mixed, normal pastel and citrus pastel.

but it wouldnt bother me since its the same gene anyway, citrus pastel is just line-bred to be cleaner.

Incorrect. Any and all pastels produced would be both pastel lines mixed up. Whether single gene, or super form, you cannot single out which is Citrus and which is not.

[Pythonfriend]

Incorrect. Any and all pastels produced would be both pastel lines mixed up. Whether single gene, or super form, you cannot single out which is Citrus and which is not.

My post is based on the assumption that pastel and citrus pastel are different genes.

if this assumption is correct, my post is 100% correct. all offspring gets one copy of citrus pastel, because we are dealing with a super citrus pastel. half of the offspring will in addition get a copy of regular pastel. all offspring that got only one copy of pastel will be pure citrus pastel. i can single it out with straightforward punnet-square genetics.

my post is only incorrect if citrus pastel, strictly speaking, does not exist as a seperate gene but is only a product of line-breeding. In that case, delete all instances of "citrus" from my post, and again my post would be correct.

[satomi325]

If you mix pastel lines, then the offspring would be mutt pastels.
Technically some pastels can be citrus and some would be a regular pastel because you don't know which parent is contributing the pastel gene. If the citrus parent passes on the citrus pastel gene in the single pastel gene snakes, the offspring would be a citrus pastel. If the other pastel parent passes on the pastel gene, that offspring will be a normal pastel. If you get any supers, both parents will contribute a pastel gene, thus making it not pure citrus. And can't call it citrus in my opinion. Only way to keep labeling citrus is to keep the citrus pastel line pure. Otherwise you're only muddying it up.

And whiteout is like NERD's fader.

Your comment came off very rude man. You need to mind your own business. This is supposed to be a positive website.

Just to remind you that this is a public forum. People are free to say what they want as long as it doesn't violate the TOS. This is the internet and you're going to get positive and negative feedback whether you want it or not. If you can't handle both, then perhaps the internet is not the right place for you. My advice would be just to ignore it or learn from it.
Just my $.02.

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[Pythonfriend]

If you mix pastel lines, then the offspring would be mutt pastels.
Technically some pastels can be citrus and some would be a regular pastel because you don't know which parent is contributing the pastel gene. If the citrus parent passes on the citrus pastel gene in the single pastel gene snakes, the offspring would be a citrus pastel. If the other pastel parent passes on the pastel gene, that offspring will be a normal pastel. If you get any supers, both parents will contribute a pastel gene, thus making it not pure citrus.

the devil is really deep in the details here. The thing is that the father is a super citrus pastel (citrus KILLER bee). That piece of information needs to be utilized here. so all offspring get one copy of citrus pastel. and if they only get one copy, it cannot be the normal pastel, it must be citrus. those that get the normal gene in addition to that will be mutt super pastels, half citrus half normal.

[satomi325]

the devil is really deep in the details here. The thing is that the father is a super citrus pastel (citrus KILLER bee). That piece of information needs to be utilized here. so all offspring get one copy of citrus pastel. and if they only get one copy, it cannot be the normal pastel, it must be citrus. those that get the normal gene in addition to that will be mutt super pastels, half citrus half normal.

I agree with you.
You are correct in thinking that the citrus killerbee will pass on the citrus gene to every offspring. I wasn't thinking about the homozygous citrus pastel. Just two snakes with two different pastel lines.

Ignore what I said previously about the regular pastel in the single pastel gene snakes. But I still stand by everything else mentioned.

Any supers will be mutts. Only the snakes that carry one pastel gene will be citrus.


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