Quote Originally Posted by Robyn@SYR View Post
The scaleless Ball python is not for everyone. And that is ok. Debate and discussion is also ok.

But I want to make a point on these quotes above. I understand these types of issues are emotional, and elicit strong feelings, but these kinds of statements are ignorant.

Have you guys BEEN one of the "big guys"? It is so amazingly difficult to run a big company, even just by reptile world standards. It is a daily challenge. Folks don't get into the industry, and have success, to make money. Folks like BHB and Constrictors Unlimited have built a long track record. Their work and effort is based on passion for the animals. It helps if they are strong businessmen, but a lot of these types of guys have spent years spinning their wheels, digging dumb holes (that they then have to get back out of), and/or making slow steady progress through lots of hard work in order to be where they are today, to be classified, often derisively, as a "big breeder".

Mike Wilbanks in particular joined our TRR talk at NARBC Anaheim, discussing the evolution of the industry, and part of his story was the years of struggle to gain a foothold in the industry, selling dollars worth while the guy next to him sold tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands. He persevered, over years, and built a fine reputation and a significant company.

There are "bad guys" in the industry, but carelessly tossing folks like BHB and Mike Wilbanks into such a group, much less "all of them" is ignorant, wrong, and disrespectful.

I have heard the trials and tribulations, the frustrations of these particular "big guys" first hand. I have heard it from others as well. I am grateful that they have the drive and passion to keep their nose down and keep doing the best job they possibly can.

(I also have first hand experience with these issues, so it is easy to empathize, and it makes such negative blanket statements so hurtful to hear)
Great post. I would have to say, Brian at BHB has got to be one of the most passionate folks out there in the reptile business. It's a pretty harsh opinion to say he's just a "big breeder in it for the money"......

If the snakes thrive, so be it! Would they survive in the wild? Not sure, but there have been scaleless specimens of snakes found in the wild before. Can't pull the "it isn't natural" card....sorry but....it isn't any less natural than us keepers that keep our snakes in captivity in plastic tubs, lol. All these beautiful bright morphs likely wouldn't make it long 'in the wild' either. Some spiders have terrible wobbles...yet folks continue to breed spiders anyway. If his scaleless babies eat well and thrive, then good for them!