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    Re: Need a deescription of these morphs please?

    No, I have a system that uploads my temps and humidity to a webpage that I can look at it there or download it into an excel file and read myself. I use a herpstat for my hot side UTH, and I had to have sighted assistance to set that up.
    Other than that, it's a lot of going by smell and touch.

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    Re: Need a deescription of these morphs please?

    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda1226 View Post
    No, I have a system that uploads my temps and humidity to a webpage that I can look at it there or download it into an excel file and read myself. I use a herpstat for my hot side UTH, and I had to have sighted assistance to set that up.
    Other than that, it's a lot of going by smell and touch.
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    Need a deescription of these morphs please?

    So do you just reach in to get the snake out and trust it won't bite you lol?
    1.0 normal bp

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    Re: Need a deescription of these morphs please?

    Don't we all?
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    7 adult Royals (2.5), 1.0 COS Pastel, 1.0 Enchi, 1.1 Lesser platty Royal python, 1.1 Black pastel Royal python, 0.1 Blue eyed leucistic ( Super lesser), 0.1 Piebald Royal python, 1.0 Sinaloan milk snake 1.0 crested gecko and 1 bad case of ETS. no wife, no surprise.

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    You're a brave one!! I'd advise getting the best tempered the breeder has

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    morph prices are falling from season to season, and i dont see blue eye leucistics as being higher than ivories. I guess one year from now both will be in your price range.

    cinnamon is easy, it makes everything darker and the pattern often gets a bit more organized. some are all dark above the spine and only have pattern on the side, some have some striping above the spine and side paterning, some look quite normal but darker, they have much daker browns going towards black.

    fire, hard to tell, compared to a normal it makes the pattern a bit strange and the browns get a bit more grey and the yellows get pulled toward white a bit. it brightens everything up a bit, and especially so in the regions that are already light-colored.

    single-gene cinnamon and single-gene fire are not really stunners, not quite like a bumble bee or an ivory or a firefly (fire + pastel) or a blue eye leucistic.

    but the super-forms are quite dramatic. a super cinnamon unfortunately sometimes has a bit of a deformed upper lip, called duckbill, its somewhat enlarged. apart from that issue that some have, its a patternless dark brown snake. very dark, no pattern. The super fire is a white snake with random yellow blotches on the spine, with black eyes where you can if the light is right see red pupils. Another variation of an almost white snake.

    If you want a variant of the white snakes, i think super fire may be more expensive and ivories look nicer. and the blue eye leucistics all have these wonderful blue eyes.

    on their own, fire and cinnamon and yellowbelly dont quite do enough that a person who is not experienced with how they are supposed to look like would go WOW thats amazing. Some lessers and mojaves do look awesome, but unless someone knows how a normal ball python is supposed to look like they will just assume thats how they are supposed to look like. And i think you want something where people see that it is not just a normal snake, but something really fancy, even if they know nothing about snakes.

    EDIT: Dont underestimate blind people, especially on the internet, just DONT. I have been utterly destroyed by blind people in online chess, repeatedly. You can always find electronics that by whatever means send their data via USB or wireless to the computer and some blind people wizardry then transforms it into an audible signal or sends an SMS or whatever. I dont know how, but from experience i know blind people have their ways to get things done. And they know how to ask for help if they need help, which is not the case here. So far the question is how certain morphs look like and figuring out a morph she likes. if she would need advice for husbandry etc, she would ask.
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    Re: Need a deescription of these morphs please?

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    Color and pattern are individual to the morph and to the snake, sex has no bearing on it.

    You could probably find male ivories for $450... At the last expo i saw a lot for $500 to $600.

    Fireflies are yellow with lots of blushing. Their patterns can vary from busy to more reduced. Their heads should be very blushed too.

    Black pewters are a combination pastel and black pastel. They're a dark grey snake overall with a busy looking pattern. Their pattern is grainy and shattered looking.

    If you're questioning any purchase please feel free to message me on here and i'd be happy to do whatever i can to help. I agree, even if you can't see it, you should still get a hot looking snake!!
    I just got a male Ivory from the Daytona show for $325 (got it pretty cheap) and saw a larger one (guessing around 600-700 grams) for $400. Also just saw some male ivorys for $375 to $450 at the tampa reptile show today.

    Another thing I just thought of, is that to ask about the temperament of the snake, you probably don't want an aggressive one. I have a few balls, and most are plenty friendly, but a couple will strike if you just reach in, not being able to see to read their body language could get you bit. Not trying to discourage you, just be careful.

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    i am confident Amanda1226 knows what she wants and is informed that you get hit more often when you cannot plan how to exactly reach into the enclosure. there will be some bites. a few more than usual, and usually bites are rather infrequent. And noone complains because they heal so rapidly. Some ball pythons never bite a human. it varies.

    anyway, if it happens, there are two different bites. one is called the tag, you get teeth, but the python immediately retreats. needle pinches followed by nothing. just a more extreme version of hissing or fake striking / head bumping.

    Then there is the food bite, when your BP mistakes your hand for food. These can be quite nasty, because the python will keep up the pressure and wont release immediately. Often they release when you blow out air hard against their nose. Spraying water on the head will also often get them to release. Also they release on their own after a while. these are far more likely to occur when there is rhodent smell in the air, or during feeding.

    anyway, it heals really very fast. and its all needle pinches.
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    What I'm most curious about, why in the world would the morph matter if you can't see it? I don't want to sounds rude - this is an honest question
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    Re: Need a deescription of these morphs please?

    AHAHA, pretty much. I have been lucky thus far and haven't been bit. My hypo girl seems very contented for me to pick her up... probably because I am so warm.

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