Shedding in rack

[whispersinmyhead]

The only issue I have with condensation was using cypress mulch it was making my melamine bubble because humidity was 100%. I don't have a reptile room which does make this setup a challenge and. I know this. So I can't put a million holes and let all my heat escape. I believe it is minor tweak I need. I mist or just spill a little water from the bowl to bump up my humidity during shed and I get a little condensation that dissipates with in an hour or two and my humidity is around 75% or 80% at that point. But maybe it is dropping down to 50-60 %too fast to help them shed a little better.

The only real bad shed I have had was when we ran ceiling fans in the room and of course forgetting it would drop humidity and that was my fault.

I thank you all again for the advise and like I said some minor tweaks to try are the moist newspaper am misting the snakes daily during shed. I will try both on individual snakes to start next time and see what works fort setup. I just can't have an over abundance of condensation because the melamine will fall apart when totally wet. A little won't hurt. I do a clean almost weekly am water bowl 2-3 times a week. So mould should t become am issue at all.



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[Neal]

lmao, 'get some knowledge'...that is funny neal, I have been keeping probably longer than you have been alive. who knows maybe not, but I have helped zoos, and also helped some pretty experienced breeders. I bred green tree pythons when I was seventeen, when at the time most people could not even keep them alive, so I suggest you know a little about somebody before running your mouth...at least being a keyboard cowboy like so many others. I know what I know from many years of keeping reptiles and some of them very difficult species. I would never put information out that that is knowingly incorrect or that would cause someone to wrongly set their animals up. I know that I have never had an issue with ball pythons by having a little condensation. I also know that the three newest rivals were previously never on frozen thawed rodents, and would not even look twice at them...but after a week of settling into my set ups, they all three took frozen thawed for me every time I have offered, within seconds of being introduced...so I must have 'some knowledge'. and I remember less than two days ago you told someone "NOT to use ground coconut fiber for ball pythons because it was bad"....so maybe you are the one who should attain a little knowledge.....just sayin

Just because you've been keeping for a set amount of time means little to nothing. You're proving that by the way you talk.

Also if you'd go back and read taht thread I responded about that, but you see I don't always use the forums so I only happen to run across that post by chance and I gave you a very good reason not to use it since you said it has 0 reasons. I could easily call you on out a lot of things that you say, and use the little wise crack posts you make but I don't because I don't want to make you look totally stupid.

I've got more experience with eco earth then you do and there is a reason that a lot of people don't use it. Try again.

EDIT:
I mean specifically your post where you tried to call me out with your ignorant context, when you post stuff like you did regarding humidity which prove you apparently know little to nothing. Who can't help Zoos? It's called volunteering. My niece does it and knows little about snakes.

[Badgemash]

The only issue I have with condensation was using cypress mulch it was making my melamine bubble because humidity was 100%. I don't have a reptile room which does make this setup a challenge and. I know this. So I can't put a million holes and let all my heat escape. I believe it is minor tweak I need. I mist or just spill a little water from the bowl to bump up my humidity during shed and I get a little condensation that dissipates with in an hour or two and my humidity is around 75% or 80% at that point. But maybe it is dropping down to 50-60 %too fast to help them shed a little better.

The only real bad shed I have had was when we ran ceiling fans in the room and of course forgetting it would drop humidity and that was my fault.

I thank you all again for the advise and like I said some minor tweaks to try are the moist newspaper am misting the snakes daily during shed. I will try both on individual snakes to start next time and see what works fort setup. I just can't have an over abundance of condensation because the melamine will fall apart when totally wet. A little won't hurt. I do a clean almost weekly am water bowl 2-3 times a week. So mould should t become am issue at all.



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I think the key here is that they're in a cooler room (since you say not a reptile room), so you would expect a bit of condensation in the tubs if they're more humid. What about adding a little plastic box, with a lid (so the snakes can't spill the contents all over), poked full of holes, and then filled with damp cypress or sphagnum to each tub? Something like that that's mold resistant but will add humidity at a more even rate than spraying.

[whispersinmyhead]

I think the key here is that they're in a cooler room (since you say not a reptile room), so you would expect a bit of condensation in the tubs if they're more humid. What about adding a little plastic box, with a lid (so the snakes can't spill the contents all over), poked full of holes, and then filled with damp cypress or sphagnum to each tub? Something like that that's mold resistant but will add humidity at a more even rate than spraying.

I get up to 80% without condensation right now because the room is 75-79f. But just started measuring at the back of the tub where the heat and snakes spend most of there time and when it is 80 up front it is only 60 at the back! So there aren't getting the humidity they need where they are spending there time. I was always told to measure from the cool side.

A humidity box at the rear will probably solve this problem!

I also just found another hygrometer of a different brand to try just incase these are all off. They all seem to be within 3% of each other but I know hygrometers can be off by lots. They all could be way off though I think they are close.

I will keep spraying daily at the rear of the tub during this shed cycle and see if that helps. My snakes only come to the cool side a few times a day and then they are in the middle or in their hide on the warm spot. So they aren't getting the access to the humidity they need. I am sure this is the cause.

Thanks for your patience through all of this. I will conduct more tests on all the tubs to see if this theory pans out.


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[whispersinmyhead]

Well. This last snake that was shedding I started spraying once a day just to give her that bump in humidity. I would spray her and the paper towel a bit and put the hide back on. Perfect shed. I am very relieved to have found out what this little issue is. My humidity is off by about 10% at the back of the tubs and that seems to be enough to cause sheds to go poorly.

Thanks again everyone.


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[sasT]

bad sheds will happen, nothing you can do about it .. I have 1 tub free just to fix this .. i put about 6 paper towels one on top of the other and pour water in there - not too much though, you don't want a pool of water in there .. I move the snake that shed badly in there and in an hour or so she will peel off the dead scales .. then I move her back to her tub worked every time for me
regards, Andrej