Pied project

[killerbunny210]

Price wise for a female axanthic het pied girl?

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[Crazymonkee]

I've been seeing female axanthics for $500-$600, I haven't seen any het pieds to price but it will be well over that

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[Pythonfriend]

double recessive projects are rather difficult.

breed a pied to an axanthic and you get double-hets. breed double het to double het, and you need to hit a 1 in 16 chance, 6,25%, to get your double recessive axanthic pied.

pied 100% het axanthic or axanthic 100% het pied can only be produced by people that already have an axanthic pied.

double recessive is not really for beginners, combining a codominant or dominant with a recessive is much easier.

many morphs work well with pied, all color morphs show themselves in pied and pattern morphs also do stuff.

two combinations are rather special and unexpected:

spider pieds and spider pied combos typically have a normal-looking head, but the rest of the body is completely white. usually a 90% white pied is rather rare, with spider its rather typical. And lesser pieds are often completely white, with black eyes. In both cases, the white is very often more pure and bright than in super fire, ivory, or most BEL combos.

Anyway, its easier start out with codominant / dominant morph combinations and simple recessive projects. for a double recessive project like axanthic pied, you should already have some axanthic breeders and some pied breeders up and running, and moving extra genes into a double recessive is much harder. At least if you want to avoid excessive inbreeding and want to do inbreeding only when its really necessary. To have a running double recessive project that goes forward without inbreeding over multiple generations, you really need to have both recessive projects also running on their own.

just go for pied, and some codominant genes that you can move into pied or combine to each other, and look at double recessives when you have two recessive projects going and a collection of breeding BPs.

a good way to start would be to get a male visual pied, and females that are 100% het pied and have an extra gene. like pastel 100% het pied, enchi 100% het pied, spider 100% het pied. maybe also a female visual pied. then you get plenty of pieds, and plenty of pied + extra gene, in the first generation you produce. Its good to start out with something that is rewarding right away.

[Crazymonkee]

Price wise for a female axanthic het pied girl?

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Ok after searching a bit I found 2 male ax het pied ... 1 for $3000 and the other for $4500, so expect females to be higher than that.
(I have a lot of time on my hands lol)

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[DTK]

Clown pied would be my pied project of choice. But I just love clowns, and think that it is an awesome combo. I believe there are pied het clowns on here for 1600 or something like that for a male and 2000 for female. something along those lines. Seems like a really good deal to me!

[cdavidson9]

Its double recessive axanthic and pied.

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Ya, im a fan of super enchi pieds also

[killerbunny210]

double recessive projects are rather difficult.

breed a pied to an axanthic and you get double-hets. breed double het to double het, and you need to hit a 1 in 16 chance, 6,25%, to get your double recessive axanthic pied.

pied 100% het axanthic or axanthic 100% het pied can only be produced by people that already have an axanthic pied.

double recessive is not really for beginners, combining a codominant or dominant with a recessive is much easier.

many morphs work well with pied, all color morphs show themselves in pied and pattern morphs also do stuff.

two combinations are rather special and unexpected:

spider pieds and spider pied combos typically have a normal-looking head, but the rest of the body is completely white. usually a 90% white pied is rather rare, with spider its rather typical. And lesser pieds are often completely white, with black eyes. In both cases, the white is very often more pure and bright than in super fire, ivory, or most BEL combos.

Anyway, its easier start out with codominant / dominant morph combinations and simple recessive projects. for a double recessive project like axanthic pied, you should already have some axanthic breeders and some pied breeders up and running, and moving extra genes into a double recessive is much harder. At least if you want to avoid excessive inbreeding and want to do inbreeding only when its really necessary. To have a running double recessive project that goes forward without inbreeding over multiple generations, you really need to have both recessive projects also running on their own.

just go for pied, and some codominant genes that you can move into pied or combine to each other, and look at double recessives when you have two recessive projects going and a collection of breeding BPs.

a good way to start would be to get a male visual pied, and females that are 100% het pied and have an extra gene. like pastel 100% het pied, enchi 100% het pied, spider 100% het pied. maybe also a female visual pied. then you get plenty of pieds, and plenty of pied + extra gene, in the first generation you produce. Its good to start out with something that is rewarding right away.

Thanks for the ideas on that..got me a nice pastel het female on the way

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[killerbunny210]

Pastel het pied

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[Crazymonkee]

Congrats! Hopefully we'll get to see the pretty lady

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[Bigfish1975]

I really love anything with yellowbelly in it. I'm currently working on yellowbelly, pastel YB and Super Pastel YB Pieds. I really like that they give nice color contrast without whiting out the pied gene.