Quote Originally Posted by jporter617 View Post
ok, then how do you explain lines of caramels with no kinks? Spaids reptiles has never had caramels with kinks, in 2003 there were alot less lines of blackpastels im sure. but you made the investment not me, so you must know more about it
It's nothing to do with certain lines, people have tried breeding non related ones and still get the issues. It's completely random and why do something that you know has issues, that's the point he's trying to make. This is why you don't see super black pastels everywhere and the reason no breeders still try. It's like breeding a sable x spider, can it be done? Yes, they can also in rare cases live but after that it's a slim to none chance of them making it. I think I remember seeing a video of one that made it to a few years but it requires a lot of time and care.

They've never had caramel with kinks that you know of. It's a genetic issue, that's all there is to it. Spiders are genetically known to have wobble, though some don't have it bad while in rare cases others can, it's just completely random.