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Re: Low white or Ringer?
Looks like a low white to me. Most ringers I've seen have it lower on the body. Plus yours has a really wonky pattern. Here's a body shot of my ringer. 
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Re: Low white or Ringer?
It looks more pied than ringer with those crazy patterns. Decider is does it have the pied dirty looking chin?
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Low white or Ringer?
Low white; IMO.
There's quite a bit of white to her to be a ringer.
My girl:
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0.1 Dog (Truffles)
0.1 Naked Cat (Mercedes)
1.0 Hamster (Pumpkin)
1.1 Bumblebees (Satyana & Weedle)
0.3 Normals (Shayla, Rita and Althea)
0.1 100% Het Pied Ringer (Avalon)
1.0 Pied (Monsieur Piederoff)
1.0 Lesser 100% Het Albino poss het OG (Tinersons)
0.1 Spider Albino (Ivy)
0.1 Mojave Cinnamon (Morticia)
1.1 Normal BCIs (Damon and Conga)
0.1 Crested Gecko (Natasha)
0.0.1 Rosehair Tarantula (Charlotte)
0.0.1 P.Metallica
0.0.1 A.Avicularia
0.0.2 P.Irminia
0.0.1 L.Parahybona
0.0.1 N.Coloratovillosus
?.?.? ASFs 
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What do you mean but dirty chin?He does have a weird thing going on but I never payed much attention to it.
Also,what do you guys think hes worth?I got him in a trade along with a champagne for an adult water monitor.
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I've seen the adult low whites for around 350-400
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low white or...
Hey, Eric. It's SnakeGuy. I'd agree with these other replies that it's a low white, but I've only seen two low whites in person and no ringers in person, so take that with a grain of salt.
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Re: Low white or Ringer?
In my opinion, he must be bred to a few visuals to prove him out. I believe he is a true Paradox Pied. He has both Pied pattern and normal pattern on his body. Where the pattern is normal, he has het Pied belly markers, where it is Pied, he has a Pied belly. We produced him in 2010 and sold him cheap and with full disclosure because I wasn't willing to risk our reputation by selling him as a Pied. Here is a link to our clutch records that shows him: http://piedpeddler.com/page2.php?vie...ory=7&image=70
Maybe somebody who knows more about Pieds than me can guarantee he is a Pied by looking at him. I have never been willing to do that. He is now old enough to have been bred several times in order to determine for sure if he is a Pied.
Paul
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My super pastel het pied has a ringer, kinda.
Not sure if its a true ringer, but it looks like someone took an eraser to it.
1.0 firefly ball python
1.0 100% Pastel het clown ball python
1.0 Enchi ball python
1.0 Super Pastel 100% het pied (Richard)
0.1 Butter 100% het ghost
0.1 Pastel 100% het pied (Keira)
0.1 Butter 50% het Ghost Ball Python (Penny)
0.1 100% het Ghost
0.1 Normal Ball Python (Irwin)
0.1 Mojave Ball Python (Eve)
0.1 Black Bee Ball Python (Charolette)
0.1 Pintripe (Olivia)
0.1 Dumeril's Boa (Peaches)
1.0 Bearded Dragon (Dude)
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Re: Low white or Ringer?
 Originally Posted by Bobbafett
There's quite a bit of white to her to be a ringer.
So you're saying a lot of white = no ringer? Please explain!
http://ball-pythons.net/forums/showt...hamp-ovulation
I've never heard any amount of white on a pied referred to as a ringer.
Last edited by grcforce327; 09-14-2013 at 08:40 PM.
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