First clutch is hatching!

[collrak]

Nice babies and fantastic gender results.

[Solarsoldier001]

How can you tell that they have granite? Is it because they look darker? I'm just curious. . Beautiful clutch! Love the spiders


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[Rickys_Reptiles]

They're all aging well! like a fiinnneee wine

[Kaorte]

That first spider is a beautiful example of the morph! Wonderfully clean lines!!

[MrLang]

How can you tell that they have granite? Is it because they look darker? I'm just curious. . Beautiful clutch! Love the spiders

Ok, there is not a huge amount of info on Granite so this is what I have so far from here and other sites:

Some granite is co-dom, some is dom, I think there is even recessive, and there is plenty that is not genetic at all.

Granite is identified by the black flecking along the sides. It also affects the pattern in funky ways when it is introduced into combos. This is why a lot of Kevin McCurley's nicest snakes have Granite - very subtle gene that funkifies the pattern, busies it up, and adds that extra flecking either in multi-scale spots, single scale spots, or partial scale spots of jet black.

Granite is identified as genetic with a few markers - The flecking, clear bellies with somewhat checkered edging (belly looks like a questionable yellow belly), 'neck break' which is basically a smudge or a spot right behind the head, more faded head, and of course heritability. The male I had has been ID'd as a granite and the traits have been passed to the babies in the first generation.



So I know a few of these have granite because:
A- A reputable breeder whose shop is a few miles from NERD, used to work at NERD, etc. told me they were and that my male that I bought from him was. All of his stock originated at NERD and he mixed in his granites without specifically identifying them as. Some people don't recognize it as its own gene, some ignore it, sometimes it isn't genetic, etc. Kevin IDs it as a gene very regularly in his combos, so he does believe there is a meaninful influence from it and it IS heritable.

B- They inherited the above markers in the first generation. If you look at a pile of pastels, they won't have these black flecks along the sides the way a few of these do. The picture of the male is where you can zoom in and see them well. The other has them but the picture doesn't highlight the areas where they are most noticeable and prevalent.

I'll snap some pics of the bellies and the heads tonight if I remember.

Anyone please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about any of this, I just cobbled together what info I could find from a number of sites.