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    Re: New arrivals :)

    Quote Originally Posted by Evenstar View Post
    It IS possible for experienced keepers to house certain snake species in communal habitats, but it is not generally recommended for the average keeper. I've had snakes for years and I'd never do it with the species I keep (most of which are boas). You will see a decline in their health over time if you continue to keep them together.
    Just emphasizing what I said earlier. It is definitely possible to keep 2 snakes together, just not generally the best way to keep them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Expensive hobby View Post
    Man, I don't know if that was supportive, offensive, defensive, indifferent, sarcastic, or none of the above lol.

    Basically I will take advice if it is sound and works for me, and I promise all of you that I will give my babies the utmost care and attention.

    If I do something wrong, shout it out. I want to take good care of them.

    Also be aware tho that these are not my first snakes or reptiles.

    Right now we have 12 snakes in my house and all are doing very well
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    Never said you were a beginner. And I also said I could tell you cared about your snakes very much.

    Quote Originally Posted by H.o.F.R View Post
    Lmao! Maybe a Lil bit of all the above. I'm sorry for the rant I haven't slept in days due to personal drama and it just rubbed me the wrong way. Seemed like you were getting gang banged over a subject that I know personally can be done safely. If you ask a lot of the so called experts in the hobby there are 3 ways of doing anything. The wrong way (bad things happen), the right way (popular general consensus that seems to work well), and the way they do it because it works for them. I guess all I was getting at is however you do it take notes of what works and what don't and share the knowledge. Good luck and enjoy those cuties!
    Not jumping down anyone's throat. Just had a concern and expressed it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Expensive hobby View Post
    Lol thanks. It was a good rant btw. I've noticed some very conflicting advice on this site when it comes to boas. Most times that I see advice that I don't necessarily agree with, it's someone ripping another person for how they care for their boa. Funny thing is most often it's a BP keeper telling a boa keeper that they are wrong and "this is how's it's done."

    Kinda like everybody is an expert on all snakes lol.

    On a side note there is tons of info on this site that is sound, and correct.
    Just want to be clear here. I keep boas. I have BCI and BCO. I do have 2 resident ball pythons (and a couple of other species), but I do not frequent the BP forums. I haunt the boa threads, lol. I don't offer much advise on BPs because that is not my area of expertise. I like BP.net because of its friendly atmosphere, but I converse on the boa forums almost exclusively. The advise I offer is based on YEARS of experience and research. This doesn't mean that my methods are the only way of doing things and it doesn't mean I am always right. But it is what it is - sound advise whether you agree with it or not. And you don't have to. Remember, I did say that it IS possible to successfully house multiple snakes together, just that it is not generally recommended.

    Quote Originally Posted by H.o.F.R View Post
    Evenstar is one of our resident boa experts imo. I respect her advice and opinions highly but there are other ways to do stuff that isn't the so called "norm" that work well for some people. I am not an expert and have just recently gotten back into boas after a decade hiatus. But if you decide to keep yours together pm me and ill be happy to share what little experiences I have had in the matter.
    Thanks Damon!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gio View Post
    I don't think anybody was ripping on him. The studies you asked for are pretty much field observations that state boas are solitary and do not live in groups. Russo, Rentfro and actual herpetologists like O'shea note their observations in the wild. Some exceptions include groups of thermo regulating boas and breeding broods. Male boas WILL fight over territory and a female. Your point is noted in captivity and I believe it can be done but with some added risk. Nothing bad may ever happen but in general most agree they are more comfortable alone. No disrespect to you or your point. Just did not want you to think anybody was being a killjoy because they said separate is more advisable. As you said do what works best for you and take notes.
    Definitely was not ripping on him at all. Thanks for referencing those experts Gio - was planning on doing that and you beat me to it! LoL....

    The important thing for anyone to take away from this thread is to do your research!! Make educated decisions! If your lifestyle and personal situations lead you to keep your snakes a certain way and you manage to keep them healthy and stress-free that way, than I am the last person to tell you that you are doing it wrong.
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