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Re: Sores on underside of head?
Depending on what you have for cage furniture it could just be that he rub himself wrong and got a little boo boo.. LOL it doesn't look like a rat bite it looks more like a skinned need would..Put some neosporine (with out pain killer) on it and keep an eye on it. Should be just fine in a shed or two.
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Re: Sores on underside of head?
How much spacing is there between the tub and top of the rack. Looks like he may have tried or is trying to squeeze out of the top of the tub. Just a thought.
It looks like its enclosure related. This doesn't really fit the bill for a bite or kick.
Our male Enchi scratched the tip of his nose up trying to get out of the air holes drilled in the tub. Switched it out for a tub with more (and smaller) holes and after a shed he was good as new.
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Re: Sores on underside of head?
Thanks for all of the responses! They've all been very helpful. To answer some of your questions, there is 1/4 inch of space between the tub and the top of the rack, there are no sharp edges and the holes were made with a soldering iron and are no bigger than the size of a standard hole punch. I also check the temps no less than twice a day and haven't noticed a spike. If it did happen, I don't know about it. There is a ceramic water bowl and a plastic bowl for a hide that I cut a door in and then smoothed the edges with the soldering iron. Here is a picture of the tub set up in case anyone wants to see. I know it's hard to say how this happened, I just wish I could know for sure so I can prevent it from happening in the future.
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I have the same tubs as you (sterilite locking with lids) and three of my snakes have the same sores on their chins. I went to the vet because one's head became very swollen and small sores started happening inside the mouth too - in this particular instance, there were two sores that lead my vet to believe a rat bit my snake twice in the mouth., in addition to chin spots. However, with the next occurence, all three of my snakes skipped eating a week before these sores showed up for the second time, first on the outside of the chin and then I checked their mouths and saw a few small sores inside that could resemble bites but no rats were present. No one seems to have any definitive answers, so I am treating it as mouth rot and administering tylan 200 which seems to be helping A LOT. As in no more swelling, shedding out and sores are gone, etc. I think at this point it may be tubs that allow snakes too much rubbing/ face squeezing areas in addition to the factors that cause stomatitis or mouth rot - lowered immune system and imperfect living conditions.
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I'm gonna add another vote to the rubbing side. These types of sores are pretty common with rack systems and snakes that like to push for weak spots in the lids. Papertowels and betadine 1:10. Should clear up fairly quickly, and maybe looking for a new type of tub for him, if the other snakes seem to be fairly content with their setups. Some snakes are just problem rubbers.
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a) Calliope 0.1, Banana Ball, 2018/19 season, 600g
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Re: Sores on underside of head?
 Originally Posted by hypersomniacjoo
I have the same tubs as you (sterilite locking with lids) and three of my snakes have the same sores on their chins. I went to the vet because one's head became very swollen and small sores started happening inside the mouth too - in this particular instance, there were two sores that lead my vet to believe a rat bit my snake twice in the mouth., in addition to chin spots. However, with the next occurence, all three of my snakes skipped eating a week before these sores showed up for the second time, first on the outside of the chin and then I checked their mouths and saw a few small sores inside that could resemble bites but no rats were present. No one seems to have any definitive answers, so I am treating it as mouth rot and administering tylan 200 which seems to be helping A LOT. As in no more swelling, shedding out and sores are gone, etc. I think at this point it may be tubs that allow snakes too much rubbing/ face squeezing areas in addition to the factors that cause stomatitis or mouth rot - lowered immune system and imperfect living conditions.
 Originally Posted by Archimedes
I'm gonna add another vote to the rubbing side. These types of sores are pretty common with rack systems and snakes that like to push for weak spots in the lids. Papertowels and betadine 1:10. Should clear up fairly quickly, and maybe looking for a new type of tub for him, if the other snakes seem to be fairly content with their setups. Some snakes are just problem rubbers.
The thread is over 3 years old 
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1.1 Ball Pythons
a) Calliope 0.1, Banana Ball, 2018/19 season, 600g
b) Geralt 1.0 Chocolate Sable Mojave pos. Trick ball, May 27th 2020
3.2 Cats (Fury, Leviathan, Walter, Chell, Amelie); 2.0 Dogs (Bjorn, Anubis); 2.1 Ferrets (Bran, Tormund, Arya); 0.1 Beardie (Nefertiti); 0.1 Slider Turtle (Species uncertain) (Papaya); 2.0 Hermit Crabs (Tamatoa, Sushi); 0.1 Conure (Mauii); Two Axolotyls (Quetzl and Unnamed); Two Tree Frogs (Pluto and Colossus); One Anole (Zeus); One Crestie (Noferatu); 3.0 Guinea Pigs (Paco, Poncho and Piccolo); 0.1 Pink Toe T (Azula)
Fish:
1.1 Oscar Cichlids (Rocky 1.0, hx2020, Red Fire, and Bubble 0.1, hx2019, Tiger), 1.1 Convict Cichlids (Hurley and Sloane), 0.1 Strawberry Peacock Cichlid (Comet), Two Plecos, Rubby the Rubbernose Pleco and Trinidad the common Pleco, 2.0 Upside Down Catfish (Poseidon, Neptune), One Red Parrot Cichlid (Firefly), 1.0 Betta Fish (Jenkins), 2.2 Cherry Barbs ("The Worst"), 1.0 Electric Blue Acara (Goldeneye)
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i felt the need to resurrect it because i have a few snakes with these sores and have researched A LOT over the course of a year and a half and haven't come across anything that pinpointed what the sores came from. Does the OP use the lid that comes with the sterilite locking box? it sucks to think im going to have to change out all of my sterilite 28qt tubs (these are the most problematic it seems, since 3/ 4 snakes with the sores are in 28qt tubs) in my rack
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Re: Sores on underside of head?
 Originally Posted by hypersomniacjoo
i felt the need to resurrect it because i have a few snakes with these sores and have researched A LOT over the course of a year and a half and haven't come across anything that pinpointed what the sores came from. Does the OP use the lid that comes with the sterilite locking box? it sucks to think im going to have to change out all of my sterilite 28qt tubs (these are the most problematic it seems, since 3/ 4 snakes with the sores are in 28qt tubs) in my rack
Don't. I use a rack, with actual drawers made for it (rhinoraxx) and my girl has them. In fact tonight while checking my 'nakes, I discovered that they're infected. Yet again. >.< raaaaaughhh...
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