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    What should I breed to my lesser female?

    I have a male bumble bee already that I plan on breeding to her this year. I'm looking to see what to breed her to next year? Of the bel's which cross do u think looks best? What's the best morph I can make with her and what morph is needed to produce it? Crystals, potions, what else? Thanks!

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    It really all depends on budget.

    For single morph males, I'd choose another lesser for BELS, an enchi or a cinnamon.

    If I were you however, I'd pick up another female instead of another male.

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    Re: What should I breed to my lesser female?

    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyD View Post
    I have a male bumble bee already that I plan on breeding to her this year. I'm looking to see what to breed her to next year?
    Sounds like you need more females in your collection. What's your poor bee gonna do next year?

    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyD View Post
    Of the bel's which cross do u think looks best?
    The cleanest is probably Lesser x Lesser, but there are some known genetic issues with that pairing, so many go with Mojave x Lesser to end up with a clean BEL without the genetic concerns.

    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyD View Post
    What's the best morph I can make with her and what morph is needed to produce it?
    If you're just talking about adding one gene, Enchi or Fire would give you nice results with your Lesser. Those two would be at the top of my list for an additional male.

    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyD View Post
    Crystals, potions, what else? Thanks!
    Yes, you could make Lesser Crystals (Special x Lesser), but you can't make Mystic Postions with your current female - they come from a Mojave x Mystic pairing. If you pick up a Mystic male, you'll end up with more BELs when paired with your Lesser.
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    Throw her in with another lesser. They seem to have the purest white out of the BlueEL
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    Re: What should I breed to my lesser female?

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    If I were you however, I'd pick up another female instead of another male.
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    Re: What should I breed to my lesser female?

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    i would avoid producing:

    - super lesser
    - super butter
    - lesser butter (the combined super)

    because these often are blind or become blind. These combinations have a genetic eye issue.

    There are so many ways to make BELs that i dont think its too much to ask to avoid these 3 possibilities. Lesser or Butter with nearly any other gene in the BEL gene complex will give high white BELs. How about mocha? Or het russo leucistic? Mystic/phantom?

    And if you want the perfect white, the most perfect white is piebald white, and you get an all-white piebald by combining lesser or butter with piebald.

    By limiting yourself to one copy of lesser/butter per snake you can avoid all issues and can still do what you want. And the non-white BELs, like mystic potion, purple passion, enchi mystic potion, leche, they really look nice and are in demand. Or just use the russo gene, the super russo is a white BEL without the issues associated to lesser/butter.

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    Re: What should I breed to my lesser female?

    Quote Originally Posted by liv View Post
    It really all depends on budget.

    For single morph males, I'd choose another lesser for BELS, an enchi or a cinnamon.

    If I were you however, I'd pick up another female instead of another male.





    I do have a pastel female also, I do want a third female also but I think I want to go recessive with my next girl.

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    What should I breed to my lesser female?

    Quote Originally Posted by SunnyD View Post
    I do have a pastel female also, I do want a third female also but I think I want to go recessive with my next girl.
    In that case, decide what recessive gene that is. Then, get a male combo het recessive that will go well with the lesser and recessive females.
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