Thanks for sharing your experience Aaron P. I like your plan of attack. I couldn't find PAM but I will look for the other sprays. At least I can get NIX. The breaded I purchase from recommended spraying everything thoroughly two days in a row (including all the snakes) without water dish and on paper substrate. Then again in 6-7 days and then again in three weeks. I think I may spray weekly for 4 weeks. That method has been successful for him in the past and I trust him quite a bit. This method also seems to have many good reports on the forums as well but method changes slightly from person to person. I really appreciate everyone's feedback and sharing if knowledge and experience.