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[Coopers Constrictors]

There is so much hidden stuff with the Citrus line that we all still have yet to figure out. I bet the Citrus in her had something to do with it.

If Amir says it's a Citrus Desert, then it's a Citrus Desert.

Congrats. This is huge.

Sorry if I missed it, but what temps were you keeping her at?

[joebad976]

This is Mike from Family Reptiles here in Lakeland, FL. Congratulations on your Desert clutch. Scott and Elizabeth, the owners of Family Reptiles, also have a viable clutch of eggs from a Desert female currently in the incubator and it is due to pip in a couple weeks. We also know of a few other breeders that have viable desert clutches and we are all trying to compare notes as to what factors may have been involved in the success. If you are willing, Scott would love to chat.

Whoa....Now there are more viable clutches. Maybe things are turning around for the desert gene. I agree the OP probably should have waited for the clutch to hatch before posting but hey this is exciting stuff. I think the baby pics were taken in crappy lighting and that makes the snake look more pastelish (new word ). I have never seen a 1600gram female Citrus Pastel Desert so I am not going to pass judgement until the clutch hatches but I do have my fingers crossed that baby deserts will appear in that clutch.

I hope the other breeders with viable clutches are taking good notes to pass on to the rest of the community. Very interesting stuff.

[Mephibosheth1]

Now, if they choose to sit on the notes after they get good useful data, THEN I could see that there was a vast Desert Gene Conspiracy under way.

Pretty cool; I feel like I'm watching history being written here....

[Mike41793]

There is so much hidden stuff with the Citrus line that we all still have yet to figure out. I bet the Citrus in her had something to do with it.

If Amir says it's a Citrus Desert, then it's a Citrus Desert.

Congrats. This is huge.

Sorry if I missed it, but what temps were you keeping her at?

Amir never makes mistakes?

[Jake Milbradt]

I wish the OP took pics to document this, then made the post AFTER the eggs hatch! If no deserts in the clutch, try again next year. The snake didn't look desert to me, and comparing pics of confirmed deserts, I still feel the same way. There is no way to say for sure the snake in question is a citrus desert until proving out the genetics. It is irresponsible to say otherwise. I don't know the "big names" that have been thrown around, but I take with a grain of salt the opinion of someone who has 8.22 snakes of this combo saying the snake in question is a viable citrus desert. That is simple buyer beware stuff.

OP: Best of luck! Words to the wise, next time you discover gold: prove it is gold then capitalize on it, don't blab to every man and his dog where you found a piece of yellow rock! Your business model, wife and kids will thank you for it.

The OP paid $1900 for this snake. I doubt he's EVER questioned whether or not it's truly a pastel desert.

[Kodieh]

Amir never makes mistakes?

EXACTLY.

I'll take my silent solace in that I'm not a sheep following big names.
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The OP paid $1900 for this snake. I doubt he's EVER questioned whether or not it's truly a pastel desert.

For sure... which further supports my gold analogy. Prove it out before telling the whole town theres gold in them thair hills!

[mapleman]

The OP paid $1900 for this snake. I doubt he's EVER questioned whether or not it's truly a pastel desert.

Yeah and I bet he's going to be PISSED if that $1900 female turns out to be a nice pastel

[EmberBall]

I do not have a rooting interest. I would love for a dozen or more female Deserts to lay viable eggs and come out the other side happy and healthy. I think the Desert is a cool looking baby, and LOVE every Desert cross I have seen.

I do not think it is a Desert female on the eggs. I looked at both the baby picture of the female on the eggs and the baby picture of the known Pastel Desert, and to me, the Pastel Desert is obviously a Pastel Desert. The baby pic of the female on the eggs is either an odd Desert Pastel, meaning not looking like most Desert Pastel, or, it simply has no Desert gene in it.

I think before everyone gets excited (might be too late for that), people should wait and see what hatches. I just hope that people do not rush out and breed their Desert females in hopes of replicating this clutch, until we see Desert babies. I think Amir has a good enough reputation that he will tell us if he made a mistake. I just hope this does not turn into a "Ball Python Cover Up" scenario, and that everyone is honest and open about the results.

Dave

[Sean : EbN]

Yeah and I bet he's going to be PISSED if that $1900 female turns out to be a nice pastel

If this does prove out to be not Desert then I'm sure Amir will take care of that. Mistakes can occur, true professionalism is how you take care of the mistakes