thoughts on 3 possible pick ups- fire pin, enchi yb, vanilla cream

[TheSnakeGeek]

that fire pin is a superb example of the morph. it gets my vote.

[lightpied]

Fire pin!

[Mike41793]

The Fire Pin looks amazing, and they are a great combo. I have made Sulfur Pins and love the look. If the Pin does prove out to be het Hypo, that is a cool bonus, but only if you have some Hypo females. The Fire is a $100 morph and so is the Pin. So, unless you have some amazing females to breed him to, you get some very low dollar offspring. The Enchi YB is a nice male to have. If you ever want Super Stripes, that male would be amazing to breed to a Spector female. The Enchi is not a high dollar morph, and neither is the YB, however, people still want nice female Enchi's and YB's in their collection. The Cream is a great snake, my Scream male is the most stunning snake I have ever seen...however, unless you only breed that Cream male to a Super Fire or Super Vanilla, you are going to get morphs that are very hard to tell what is what-Fire and Vanilla and their combos. Trust me, I had that issue this past year.

Dave

You don't need amazing females to breed the fire pin to... Even a pastel or spider female has the potential to make awesome combos. Have you seen dragonflies? They're sweet. A fire spinner would be kick ass too.

Well none of the morphs there are high dollar morphs, I don't think that's what his goal is. But to say enchi isn't high dollar is a bit shaky imo. I still see nice females going for $500 all day long. That's higher than any of the other morphs involved there.

[BHReptiles]

That fire pin is sexy!

[JMinILM]

The fire pin is the best of the group IMO. I don't really like the look of the enchi YB, but then again I am not really a fan of either of those two morphs until their potential is brought out in combos.

[EmberBall]

Five Hundred dollars is not considered a high end morph in the Ball Python community. I have new for you, if you spend close to a grand on a male, chances are, you want to make some money with him.

Dave

[BHReptiles]

Five Hundred dollars is not considered a high end morph in the Ball Python community. I have new for you, if you spend close to a grand on a male, chances are, you want to make some money with him.

Dave

Not everyone is out to make money. Perhaps the OP just wants a nice new addition. In my opinion, that fire pin is a nice new addition and it can make some cool combos. Just because they aren't expensive doesn't mean they aren't cool. It sounds like you're in this hobby to make a quick buck. Most people here do it for the passion behind it...not how much money it can make you.

[yardy]

The Fire Pin looks amazing, and they are a great combo. I have made Sulfur Pins and love the look. If the Pin does prove out to be het Hypo, that is a cool bonus, but only if you have some Hypo females. The Fire is a $100 morph and so is the Pin. So, unless you have some amazing females to breed him to, you get some very low dollar offspring. The Enchi YB is a nice male to have. If you ever want Super Stripes, that male would be amazing to breed to a Spector female. The Enchi is not a high dollar morph, and neither is the YB, however, people still want nice female Enchi's and YB's in their collection. The Cream is a great snake, my Scream male is the most stunning snake I have ever seen...however, unless you only breed that Cream male to a Super Fire or Super Vanilla, you are going to get morphs that are very hard to tell what is what-Fire and Vanilla and their combos. Trust me, I had that issue this past year.

Dave

This is very sound reasoning. In terms of looks I love both the fire pin and the cream but in breeding terms the enchi yellow belly probably has a lot more potential. Fire pins are very beautiful in their own right, sought after and extremely useful if you want to go for dragonflies or nuclear pinstripes (both stunning), so if you are that way inclined then the fire pin gets my vote, particularly as I have a love of hypos, but be aware that single gene pinstripes and fires have become difficult to sell. Enchi combos are very variable in the expression of the different genes and I would not let the slightly dull appearance of the enchi y/b put me off, by selecting the right breeding partners you could produce some stunners from that one and it would be my choice.

[Dragonviper]

I spoke to the breeder but the fire pin has been already picked up, along with the Vanilla cream. The enchi yb isn't as stunning as I'd like her to be so I'm going to pass on her. My breeding plans are flexible, although 2 of my new pickups are being a major pain in the you know where in terms of feeding and I will be asking for advice on them in another thread.

[Mike41793]

Five Hundred dollars is not considered a high end morph in the Ball Python community. I have new for you, if you spend close to a grand on a male, chances are, you want to make some money with him.

Dave

You worded your first post really weird then... I get what you were trying to say, it just came across oddly.